reviews on clubs..... what is the"scene"?

[joevibe]

I have read numerous threads about people knocking venues. Avalon, when it opened... and now Crobar.

The scene was created on people being different and an energy being created from that difference... it's about the gay boys, the "freaks", the b and t suburban crowd, the old, the young.... all coming together to experience life and the music together.

I remember the limelight days..when everyone partied together, and that's why I fell in love with the "scene".

It was a magical place..where everyone left their day life behind them.. and let loose all together.
I remember those days.. meeting people with names like "smile" or "energy" etc.....people had identities in the clubs. Call them "clubkids"...call them spritutual.. call them fucked up, "freaks"...whatever.. but call them true believers and dreamers..artists of their own mind.

The venues don't make the scene..they provide a place for the scene to happen. We should ll be thankful to all those investors and dreamers who take risks to make this happen. They do it for us, the people.. hoping to achieve something greater; hoping to expand our minds..our hearts.

Don't knock the people that are different than you... you live in america where difference is what keeps us americans.. the club scene takes that difference to the next level... it's place of pur freedom. Act as you like, wear what you like..be who you like.

It's about finding the energy inside yourself. not in the venue....

find the energy within.. dance by yourself with you eyes closed like you were all alone... reach deeper .

Please open your minds... find the energy..the good energy and share it witht hose around you..

I could go on and on about how passion is the key..but it is a key to a door that you the people need to open.


Give Avalon, Spirit, Crobar.. a chance to please you..
give yourself a chance to please yourself...

I promise you.. you won't be dissappointed.



that is all. thanks for listening.

[babbo]

Originally posted by joevibe
I have read numerous threads about people knocking venues. Avalon, when it opened... and now Crobar.

The scene was created on people being different and an energy being created from that difference... it's about the gay boys, the "freaks", the b and t suburban crowd, the old, the young.... all coming together to experience life and the music together.

I remember the limelight days..when everyone partied together, and that's why I fell in love with the "scene".

It was a magical place..where everyone left their day life behind them.. and let loose all together.
I remember those days.. meeting people with names like "smile" or "energy" etc.....people had identities in the clubs. Call them "clubkids"...call them spritutual.. call them fucked up, "freaks"...whatever.. but call them true believers and dreamers..artists of their own mind.

The venues don't make the scene..they provide a place for the scene to happen. We should ll be thankful to all those investors and dreamers who take risks to make this happen. They do it for us, the people.. hoping to achieve something greater; hoping to expand our minds..our hearts.

Don't knock the people that are different than you... you live in america where difference is what keeps us americans.. the club scene takes that difference to the next level... it's place of pur freedom. Act as you like, wear what you like..be who you like.

It's about finding the energy inside yourself. not in the venue....

find the energy within.. dance by yourself with you eyes closed like you were all alone... reach deeper .

Please open your minds... find the energy..the good energy and share it witht hose around you..

I could go on and on about how passion is the key..but it is a key to a door that you the people need to open.


Give Avalon, Spirit, Crobar.. a chance to please you..
give yourself a chance to please yourself...

I promise you.. you won't be dissappointed.



that is all. thanks for listening.

well said

[joevibe]

Originally posted by babbo
well said

Thanks...
I think it needs to be said, sadly enough.. and reinforced.. so bump this thing till it has about 2500 hits would ya.

[reddog4063]

I hear what you're saying Joe...but its kinda beating a dead horse around these parts. I feel like you cant force it, it will rebound when its ready to do so. I will say this, I HATED Avalon my first time out there, but I cannot deny they are bringing in fantastic talent and its getting me to head over that way alot more than I thought I would be....I am really excited now about what they are doing.

[silverbull]

But why stop only with AVALON,SPIRIT,CROBAR give every club a shot once you find your "scene".

[Roxxia]

Originally posted by joevibe
I have read numerous threads about people knocking venues. Avalon, when it opened... and now Crobar.

The scene was created on people being different and an energy being created from that difference... it's about the gay boys, the "freaks", the b and t suburban crowd, the old, the young.... all coming together to experience life and the music together.

I remember the limelight days..when everyone partied together, and that's why I fell in love with the "scene".

It was a magical place..where everyone left their day life behind them.. and let loose all together.
I remember those days.. meeting people with names like "smile" or "energy" etc.....people had identities in the clubs. Call them "clubkids"...call them spritutual.. call them fucked up, "freaks"...whatever.. but call them true believers and dreamers..artists of their own mind.

The venues don't make the scene..they provide a place for the scene to happen. We should ll be thankful to all those investors and dreamers who take risks to make this happen. They do it for us, the people.. hoping to achieve something greater; hoping to expand our minds..our hearts.

Don't knock the people that are different than you... you live in america where difference is what keeps us americans.. the club scene takes that difference to the next level... it's place of pur freedom. Act as you like, wear what you like..be who you like.

It's about finding the energy inside yourself. not in the venue....

find the energy within.. dance by yourself with you eyes closed like you were all alone... reach deeper .

Please open your minds... find the energy..the good energy and share it witht hose around you..

I could go on and on about how passion is the key..but it is a key to a door that you the people need to open.


Give Avalon, Spirit, Crobar.. a chance to please you..
give yourself a chance to please yourself...

I promise you.. you won't be dissappointed.



that is all. thanks for listening.

B] Act as you like, wear what you like..be who you like.[/B]


Joe,
That is beautifully said...but..I think you are missing what is really going on out there in clubland here in NYC.

Tell me one club that allows for you to do that..the statement in bold?
People at Avalon are turned away for "wearing what they like".
and..you are missing the crucial part here...where is the musical diversity?
Who's taking the risks with the DJ's?
These new venues are great,except for the fact that they are bringing in DJ's that are going to bring the same sounds that NYC has heard for the past 4 years...

I am not going to get specific here, I mean,Props tp Crobar for having Yahel on the 24, but, all in all, there is no Great change here.
I am extremely optimistic, and perhaps I can see more clearly, but, there is NO Change.
Nothing has changed Joe, and please don't try and glorify the scene..
True, the club doesn't create the vibe, the people do, but, where is this "Diversity" that you speak so much of?

It has not been created yet..it will... but..not yet...

[joevibe]

Originally posted by silverbull
But why stop only with AVALON,SPIRIT,CROBAR give every club a shot once you find your "scene".

I am not at all.. they are the newest and most recently.. "knocked" venues and also the best/biggest venues the city has "scene" in a while.

[reddog4063]

ARC tonight...

Originally posted by Roxxia
Act as you like, wear what you like..be who you like.

[Roxxia]

Originally posted by joevibe
I am not at all.. they are the newest and most recently.. "knocked" venues and also the best/biggest venues the city has "scene" in a while.

Joe,
What makes these clubs "the biggest/best"?

[joevibe]

Originally posted by Roxxia
Joe,
What makes these clubs "the biggest/best"?

square footage.... biggest (obvious) / money behind them.


best.. maybe is a wrong term..

most "evolutionary"....
you get the point....

[Roxxia]

Originally posted by joevibe
square footage.... biggest (obvious) / money behind them.


best.. maybe is a wrong term..

most "evolutionary"....
you get the point....

"Evolutionary"

HA..

That's funny!

Moving on...

[joevibe]

Originally posted by Roxxia
"Evolutionary"

HA..

That's funny!

Moving on...

why is that fuunny... explain.

[reddog4063]

some of the best parties ive been to recently have been in venues the size of my basement, i cant say that bigger is necessarily better, but if its great already AND its huge its gonna be an even better time. i hope crobar in the future follows the path of avalon.

[Roxxia]

Originally posted by Roxxia
"Evolutionary"

HA..

That's funny!

Moving on...

Joe,
"Evolutionary=1 : one of a set of prescribed movements
2 a : a process of change in a certain direction.

These new superclubs that are gracing NY have no such meaning.
Where is the real "change"..and I'm not talking about scenery and bla,bla,bla,..

Joe, you know exactly what I'm talking about.This is something that cannot be described,it has to be known and felt...and maybe I am talking a bit too deep here, but, if you are so kken to the "scene" as you make yourself out to be, then you should know that and stop trying to fool yourslef and everyone else.

As I mentioned before,if you read, where is the musical diversity?
Which clubs offer gay,straight,bi?

it's a feeling joe,it's such a great feeling, that people look forward to the weekend.people look forward to going out, I don't "feel"that Joe...something is wrong still...
Something is still missing..and as I said, that "something" cannot be explained, it must be felt...

Do u hear me now?

[joevibe]

Originally posted by Roxxia
Joe,
"Evolutionary=1 : one of a set of prescribed movements
2 a : a process of change in a certain direction.

These new superclubs that are gracing NY have no such meaning.
Where is the real "change"..and I'm not talking about scenery and bla,bla,bla,..

Joe, you know exactly what I'm talking about.This is something that cannot be described,it has to be known and felt...and maybe I am talking a bit too deep here, but, if you are so kken to the "scene" as you make yourself out to be, then you should know that and stop trying to fool yourslef and everyone else.

As I mentioned before,if you read, where is the musical diversity?
Which clubs offer gay,straight,bi?

it's a feeling joe,it's such a great feeling, that people look forward to the weekend.people look forward to going out, I don't "feel"that Joe...something is wrong still...
Something is still missing..and as I said, that "something" cannot be explained, it must be felt...

Do u hear me now?

I do see change..evolving... not new..but evolved. Evolution is the process of change..

Spirit is a club/venue with dinner and live shows. Is that not different enough??? I think it's great.

and what you don't feel is in you.. you need to find it or let it find you...maybe we have gotten old..stopped doing drugs..become jadedetc.
..but if you are passionate enough ..you will find that feeling.. I truly believe that.
thats what I was trying to say....