Who here can expertly define a genre of music?!?!

[SPHERIC]

I have noticed that as of late there has been a lot of drama over people not agreeing about a vibe or most importantly a style of music. Heres a little social experiment for our board. Let's see who can give us the text book definition of styles of music since I've noticed so many experts on the subject. Here we go:

What is house music?
What is hard house?
What is trance?
What is progressive house?
what is techno?
What is breakbeat?
What is tribal?

let's see all of the opinions on this!

[sugar_n_spice]

im with u on this one spheric. i have been arguing w/ some ppl lately and would like to get everyone's opinions on this!


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[SPHERIC]

Originally posted by sugar_n_spice:
im with u on this one spheric. i have been arguing w/ some ppl lately and would like to get everyone's opinions on this!

Looks like nobody is up to the challenge

[SPHERIC]

Originally posted by sugar_n_spice:
im with u on this one spheric. i have been arguing w/ some ppl lately and would like to get everyone's opinions on this!

Doesn't seem like anyone else is up to it!

[uknjx2]

well i for one need help with this stuff! i am clueless but i'm catching on slowly. i don't really see why i (personally) need to be able to label it as long as i enjoy it and it brings me pleasure!

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[cmb1975]

http://www.listen.com/sub1.jspparent=109&sac=1
http://www.allmusic.com/mus_Styles.html

have a look at these websites, they may be helpful

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[ccms610]

Well this is not an expert reply, but this is what I believe.
House music is what you would hear Danny Tenaglia spin... simple dance music that doesn't sound cheesy. I really dunno how to desribe house...it will use those weird sounds.. like.."BOOONG", and those electric elastic band sounds.. like in the track "My Lexicon" By Sander Kleinenberg... crazy sounds in that song.
Hard house, is what you hear at exit. House music with a Hard beat.. it's relatively easier to dance too. But to me it's gay.
Trance is music that has the sounds that hypnotize you.. take you away... put you in the "trance"... one of my favorite trance songs is Pistolwhip by Joshua Ryan (James Holden Remix)... it's sooo good. You will hear Sasha spin that track a lot. It's in his birthday set, and I've heard it at Twilo the past few times he was there.

Progressive "anything".. is exactly what it means... the song starts off with maybe your beat, and a symbol clashing.. then as it progressives you hear more and more sounds added to the song, until it reaches it's climax... perfect example of this is Xpander, by Sasha..

Techno.. hmm.. I don't know. It uses "technoey, robotic, futuristic sounds" HAHAH I don't think that's a good description.

Breakbeat, has a different beat than other songs. Listen to Space Manouveres by Stage One, Rabbitweed by Sasha, The Fibocanni Sequence (is that how u spell it?) by BT, and I even think Belfunk sounds breakbeat almost.

Tribal... to me is house music that uses drumbeats that you would hear african tribes play.

Well that is what I think each genre of music represents. Any corrections or additions?

-Steve

[risa06]

wow...thats all??? come on guys...all this talk about musik and noone has anything to say right now????....funny

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[mysteriousss]

Yeah, most ppl are only good at "******* sucks" comments..

[spoonyd]

This is the best thing I've seen so far. It matches just about 100% with my own definitions:
http://www.ishkur.com/menu/lifestyle/guide.htm

Another good way to get a feel for styles is from the satellite records web site ( www.satteliterecords.com ) and check out the new items 'by style'. They do okay for definitions except where 'hard house' is concerned (ie, they tend to put the NY style of hardhouse (cheese trance)).

This is a copout because I have lots to do today and can't sit here and type (like that ever stopped me before).

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[back2basics-]

shit i have just typed in my definitions... lost em.. i will get back round to it.

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[k_car]

definitely not an expert on defining the specific genres. i'm not sure many of us have sat around pondering the exact definition of each type of music Sheric has listed. I think most people basically RECOGNIZE the different genres when they hear it and can point out, "that was house" or "that was progressive trance." the easiest thing for me to do, yet very simplistic and generalized is to give examples of DJ's (although this is dangerous b/c most dj's play a variety of genres), songs, venues, etc. as an example of each. i'll use laymen's terms to describe them b/c quite honestly, i don't know the technical ones

house - "i'll house you" by the jungle brothers is a perfect example of an old school house music. carl cox tends to play a lot of hard techno and house (as well as other genres)

hard house - like someone said b4, a prime example is exit and boris. hard hitting, beat you over the head with bass.

trance - sasha, very trancy... gus gus (sasha v. the light), PVD, Oakie... once again, the disclaimer that these djs typically expand many other genres of music but i use as examples

progressive (house & trance) - somewhat difficult to distinguish sometimes but progressive can be seen to a great extent in PVD's live @ home - very hard and progressive.

techno - go to old days at limelight (early mid 90's)... songs like dominator, injected with a poison. today, sven vath is a perfect example of a good techno dj

breakbeat - name speaks for itself. somgs like alasla by alaska and beyond therapy by jmj & richie

tribal - once again, a very descriptive title, like someone alse said, music sounds that may remind you of being in the bush in africa. sorry, no songs come to mind.

this is the best way i know how to describe the various music not being a dj or music critic. i would imagine many people define their various genres this way. i have simplified everything here (which some may or may not agree with). the bottom line is... i know how to destinguish, most of the time, the different genres of music when i here it.

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[ccms610]

To risa06, and mysteriousss.. you made your comments like

"wow...thats all??? come on guys...all this talk about musik and noone has anything to say right now????....funny

Yeah, most ppl are only good at "******* sucks" comments.."

well... I'd like to hear your opinion on this topic, no one has anything to say.. so why don't you guys say something?

[risa06]

Originally posted by ccms610:
To risa06, and mysteriousss.. you made your comments like

"wow...thats all??? come on guys...all this talk about musik and noone has anything to say right now????....funny

Yeah, most ppl are only good at "******* sucks" comments.."

well... I'd like to hear your opinion on this topic, no one has anything to say.. so why don't you guys say something?

well sweetie...I'm never the one who acts like I know everything about electronic musik....if anything....this reply was more of a question...cuz I really want to know how all these people that say (for example) musik at Exit is not deep house define deep house (especialy those who never go there)....now its your turn I guess

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[spoonyd]

Originally posted by k_car:

house - "i'll house you" by the jungle brothers is a perfect example of an old school house music. carl cox tends to play a lot of hard techno and house (as well as other genres)

Considerably better definition - "House Music" by Eddie Amador. Oddly a definitive track.

hard house - like someone said b4, a prime example is exit and boris. hard hitting, beat you over the head with bass.

Not hard house - You can possibly call that NY hard house, but the style is more closely associated with Trance and Euro (kind of a blend of the two). But it's not hard house.

trance - sasha, very trancy... gus gus (sasha v. the light), PVD, Oakie... once again, the disclaimer that these djs typically expand many other genres of music but i use as examples

Try and of the Binary Finary 199* tracks. Again, definitive of the style.

progressive (house & trance) - somewhat difficult to distinguish sometimes but progressive can be seen to a great extent in PVD's live @ home - very hard and progressive.

Try, bassline driven and possesing the rythm of a techno track. Add pad melodies to distinguish prog trance from house.

techno - go to old days at limelight (early mid 90's)... songs like dominator, injected with a poison. today, sven vath is a perfect example of a good techno dj

You're confusing oldskool hardcore with techno. Though you are bang on calling Sven Vath a good techno dj. But he plays techno, not oldschool hardcore.

breakbeat - name speaks for itself. somgs like alasla by alaska and beyond therapy by jmj & richie

The breakbeat is, for example, the rythm that all hip-hop is done to. It's syncopated (ie not 4/4). Breaks, bigbeat, jungle, two step etc. is also based on the breakbeat. Perfect example of a breakbeat is James Brown's "Funky Drummer" sample.

tribal - once again, a very descriptive title, like someone alse said, music sounds that may remind you of being in the bush in africa. sorry, no songs come to mind.
Try: --> http://209.237.157.45/ram/45406.RAM

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