I agree with Corbett on the promoter part. BEFORE say ten years back . . . it was much, MUCH harder to get into a "good" club . . . let alone trying to get onto a guestlist. Also, the word "guestlist" took you far. It wasn't just comps and reduces . . . it was a special treatment. NOW it really doesn't mean much. Promoters are not important to club owners as they use to be. Things have definately changed in the club land, but so has everything else in the world. Everything evolves . . . it's the facts of life. I also agree with MissKittie, we do make our own scene. BlueAngel