Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor

***zeeker*** · 07-15-05, 03:32 AM

Maybe its just wishful thinking, but I'm going with Taylor to be the one to dethrone Hopkins. I think on Saturday, Bernard finally gets old.

***stymie*** · 07-15-05, 10:17 AM

fuck that.

name one half decent fighter taylors ever beat.

seriously name one.

(and dont even fucking say marquez or joppy)

***zeeker*** · 07-15-05, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stymie

fuck that.

name one half decent fighter taylors ever beat.

seriously name one.

(and dont even fucking say marquez or joppy)

well, they were both World Champions...i think that qualifies them as being at least halfway decent.

bxbomb · 07-15-05, 02:45 PM

joppy is a pretty decent fighter , but yeah Jermain hasnt fought anyone that great ,but how long can Hopkins keep it up ??hes fuckin 40 now and been kickin ass for over a decade now
sooner or later one of these young guys wiht a lot less talent than he ever had will tag him

that being said i dont think its gonna be this time
one more for the executionahhhhhh

***ghhhhhost*** · 07-15-05, 02:55 PM

just put a notch in bern's belt...there's no way in hell he falls to this kid

***stymie*** · 07-15-05, 03:26 PM

joppy WAS an above average fighter at best... WAS

and mike tyson was a world champion too, whats your point?

***Spragga*** · 07-15-05, 03:42 PM

Think about it - Hopkins hasn't really beaten a really good middleweight in years. De La Hoya and Tito weren't true middleweights and were eaten alive by Hopkins.

He lost to Jones and beaten Glen Johnson before he became the polished fighter that he his now. Taylor is a true middleweight, has a lot of talent and a nasty jab that'll keep Hopkins at bay. As long as he stays away from a Hopkins "shitfest" style - he'll at least win by decision or by late round KO.

***stymie*** · 07-15-05, 03:57 PM

ok you have a point but heres the thing... even if DLH and Tito are just blown up welterwights theyre still way tougher opponents than anyone Taylor has fought.

I dont really think Glen Johnson is polished fighter at all. Hes just a hard worker that never quits. Hes kind of a hackjob actually.

***groovefire*** · 07-15-05, 04:28 PM

Stymie's gonna hate this, but, it's better for boxing if Taylor wins. Hopkins is near retirement. He's already solidified himself as the best middleweight of his time. If he loses, okay, he probably won't be considered among best middleweights of all time, but frankly I'm not sure he is either way. Is he as good as Hagler was? Hearns? Ehhh no. If Taylor wins, we'll have years and years of title defenses to look forward to. I'm not just saying I hope Taylor wins, I'm saying I hope Taylor really is as good as the hype around him, I hope he really is good enough to beat the likes of Hopkins. That to me would be exciting.

***stymie*** · 07-15-05, 04:29 PM

go sip a mojito

***zeeker*** · 07-15-05, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stymie

joppy WAS an above average fighter at best... WAS

and mike tyson was a world champion too, whats your point?

whats the definition of an average fighter? being ranked in the top 10 in the world at your weight class means he is one of the 10 best guys at his weight in the entire world. I don't know how one of the 10 best fighters in the world in a weight class translates into being only an average fighter. Keep it in perspective.

***groovefire*** · 07-15-05, 04:38 PM

I'll back Stymie on that. By all accounts, Joppy was half the fighter he once was when he fought Taylor, and his impending exile from the sport was well known. He was supposed to lose to Taylor. Nothing much for Taylor to pride himself on winning that fight. Just good that he didn't blow it.

***stymie*** · 07-15-05, 04:41 PM

Morrade Hakkar

^^If you kno who that is, then you kno that ratings mean NOTHING.

***groovefire*** · 07-15-05, 04:43 PM

Let me add that I am a Red Sox fan and was fucking redic psyched when Schilling came outta the bullpen last night, so my sports analysis is retarded.

***Felix_Leiter*** · 07-15-05, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groovefire

Let me add that I am a Red Sox fan and was fucking redic psyched when Schilling came outta the bullpen last night, so my sports analysis is retarded.

you're pretty behind with your music as well

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07-15-05, 10:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
*stymie* ....... Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,911	fuck that. name one half decent fighter taylors ever beat. seriously name one. (and dont even fucking say marquez or joppy)

07-15-05, 02:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
bxbomb gobbagool Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: river ave. Boogiedown Posts: 4,214	joppy is a pretty decent fighter , but yeah Jermain hasnt fought anyone that great ,but how long can Hopkins keep it up ??hes fuckin 40 now and been kickin ass for over a decade now sooner or later one of these young guys wiht a lot less talent than he ever had will tag him that being said i dont think its gonna be this time one more for the executionahhhhhh

07-15-05, 03:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
*stymie* ....... Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,911	joppy WAS an above average fighter at best... WAS and mike tyson was a world champion too, whats your point?

07-15-05, 03:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
*Spragga* Dumb Jock Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Upper West Side Posts: 11,094	Think about it - Hopkins hasn't really beaten a really good middleweight in years. De La Hoya and Tito weren't true middleweights and were eaten alive by Hopkins. He lost to Jones and beaten Glen Johnson before he became the polished fighter that he his now. Taylor is a true middleweight, has a lot of talent and a nasty jab that'll keep Hopkins at bay. As long as he stays away from a Hopkins "shitfest" style - he'll at least win by decision or by late round KO.

07-15-05, 03:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
*stymie* ....... Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,911	ok you have a point but heres the thing... even if DLH and Tito are just blown up welterwights theyre still way tougher opponents than anyone Taylor has fought. I dont really think Glen Johnson is polished fighter at all. Hes just a hard worker that never quits. Hes kind of a hackjob actually.

07-15-05, 04:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
*groovefire* Fawkin Sowx Keed Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: RI/MA Posts: 9,920	Stymie's gonna hate this, but, it's better for boxing if Taylor wins. Hopkins is near retirement. He's already solidified himself as the best middleweight of his time. If he loses, okay, he probably won't be considered among best middleweights of all time, but frankly I'm not sure he is either way. Is he as good as Hagler was? Hearns? Ehhh no. If Taylor wins, we'll have years and years of title defenses to look forward to. I'm not just saying I hope Taylor wins, I'm saying I hope Taylor really is as good as the hype around him, I hope he really is good enough to beat the likes of Hopkins. That to me would be exciting.

07-15-05, 04:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
*stymie* ....... Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,911	go sip a mojito

07-15-05, 04:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
*groovefire* Fawkin Sowx Keed Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: RI/MA Posts: 9,920	I'll back Stymie on that. By all accounts, Joppy was half the fighter he once was when he fought Taylor, and his impending exile from the sport was well known. He was supposed to lose to Taylor. Nothing much for Taylor to pride himself on winning that fight. Just good that he didn't blow it.

07-15-05, 04:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
*stymie* ....... Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,911	Morrade Hakkar ^^If you kno who that is, then you kno that ratings mean NOTHING.

07-15-05, 04:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
*groovefire* Fawkin Sowx Keed Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: RI/MA Posts: 9,920	Let me add that I am a Red Sox fan and was fucking redic psyched when Schilling came outta the bullpen last night, so my sports analysis is retarded.