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    Meditation and Ketamine

    this is a classic, .. i must have posted this on CP years ago, probably back in 2001 or so.. fig'd why NOT post it again.. fun for reading!!

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    K-Hole and Meditation
    We are incarnated in the form that we are in now. So our thougths and
    actions will follow the form. However our true entity does not lie in the
    physical but yet the Energy, which is a constant perpetual. Never ending and
    never begining. It is neither then nor now let alone the future. It's simply
    a consciousness of energy as itself without human thought.
    for example, if an infant is hungry the infant does not say "gee I'm hungy i
    hope mom feeds me" It hasn't developed the neurolinguistic abilty to do
    that, so it's thought process is pure in reaction of the need to identify
    the signals of it's bodily organs *hunger*.
    Well in a deep meditation which is extemely similar to being in a K-hole
    from using ketamine we can experience our true form, which is formless and
    timeless. We then become aware of our true entity, one with the creative
    force. We dissolve into the light and our body is non-existent meaning we
    are no longer aware of our body. Once that happens our thought isn't as it
    is now, it's very primitive in the link of non logical consciousness and
    emotion we then become in our own energy and is what the Buddhist would call
    the "NOW". Being in the moment. However after much thought and meditation
    upon this and re-experiencing my enlightment, i've realized that there is no
    such thing as time, no past no future, and ALSO no NOW. It is simply an
    awareness of energy which is not subject to time or physical matter.
    I don't mean to demean meditation and Budhism by saying that you can reach
    Enlightment through Ketamine. I myself is a born again Christian that
    follows the practices of Budhism for it's effective and practical purposes,
    as well as Zen meditation.
    I don't promote or suggest using drugs, however it is a simple fact that
    different levels of consciousness is reached with the effects of different
    drugs especially dis-associative drugs like ketamine. However when they
    reach these states they normally don't know what it is they are experiencing
    and therefore may feel traumatized.
    Meditation is much more effecient and safer, however it takes practice and a
    still mind.
    The reason i'm sharing this with the people of CP is to simply assure anyone
    that may have been or may end up in a K-hole not to panic, it's an
    experience and just let the experience 'play' itself out. Try to take
    something positive from it instead of something negative.
    The experiences i've had has only assured me that we are all as one. Each
    individual is unique but yet we are all as one, and therefore must treat
    each other as if they were a part of us.
    Also if there has been anyone who has had a "bad trip" or a bad experience
    in a K-hole, rest assured it's only in your fears and anxiety that the
    negative things come to manifest itself. Be positive in heart and faith and
    you will NEVER have a bad trip regardless of what you may ingest.
    You see, "THOUGHT" in itself can't exist with a subject of something to
    think about. That is including the brain. The brain iteslf gives raise to
    our thought, it must be aware of itself, however it's an illusion because
    our true form, our true entity is timeless and matterless.
    Time itself can not exist without a matter and an action in which space and
    observation is necessary.
    With those two things as the center of concentration it's easier to meditate
    and reach Enlightment.
    The Budhist likes to point out the all suffering comes from our desire. If
    we desire nothing we shall not suffer. Well most of our desire is to feed
    our physical form body. Meaning i may desire to want to have sex with
    Rebecca Romijn Stamos that desire comes as the need to fulfill my sexual
    bodily responses of hormones, which all lie in the physical. If she turns me
    down i may feel offended, however if i did not desire it, i won't feel the
    anguish.
    So it's in the discipline of daily meditation to control the six senses, and
    therefore be more in-tune with the CREATIVE FORCE.
    I hope this may have been helpful or atleast spiritually provoking.
    If anyone needs some question answered about my experiences or others or any
    question'bout meditation and so forth, please don't hesitate to reply to
    this post.

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    Re: Meditation and Ketamine

    Yeah you figured incorrectly, dickweed.

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