See no, YOU dont know waht your talkin about there buddy. By loop, i meant that a hip hop track is basically a repetitiious 16 bar loop. Other music, whether it be electronic dance, or live band recordings involve automation,filter sweeps,song structure (verse,chorus,bridge) etc The world doesnt need any more "hip hop producers" making "ill beats" with thier pc at home. Posting shit on myspace claiming to be the next neptunes, when half there sounds are simple patches off the nnxt and nn19 in reason.