OK folks, everyone is getting pretty heated here. Let me just say this, I know quite a bit about this subject, as well as about world politics in general. Lets call it a hobby. Both of you guys (blue and Illiyana) have your points. I don't think blue is wrong to say that a war over a piece of land is stupid. Any war is stupid. Period. People living by and dying by their principals may seem very romantic, and honerable, but any human hurting any other human in anger is wrong. That said, children being killed is a travesty, and the skewed reporting by CNN, The times, and most of our media is a crying shame. There was a time when reporting in the US was honorable and unbiased. Anyone who thinks this is true now is uninformed. Regardless of what going on in the mideast there is no reason to get nasty with another person because of their opinion. Personal attacks only show a lack of class. An informed debate is one thing, but mudslinging because you dont like another persons opinion is pretty base. I am not some tree hugging politically correct person By the way, this is just how I think based on life experiences. You both have your opinions and you have a right to them, but please keep the mudslinging and personal attacks off this board. Its boring to say the least. B ------------------ "Fools cant see me thats how it is thats how I like it cause thats my biz"