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Hey on another Twilo post here selective mentioned that Twilo wants to be traded on the NASDAQ! ARE YOU SERIOUS????? Saints preserve us! what can it mean???? Well it will be interesting at any rate.

I'm reading everyone's arguments from all sides, and find things to agree with in all of them. I agree that it saddens me (and sometimes yeah annoys me) to see the same people looking glassy eyed EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND...I agree that thinking e has a seriously spiritual impact on your life is usually a neophyte's attitude... But then I can't be a hypocrite. I've done it and loved it. I've also done it and been bored, disappointed, etc. I think you just sort of grow out of it. Or, let's say, you grow out of the need to CONSTANTLY do it. I can't sit here and tell people to party clean, because I don't always party clean myself, though usually I do. And yet, I can't claim that telling people to be "moderate" and "party safe" will necessarily save the life of the one person who one time took one pill too many, or the bad pill, or mixed it with something they shouldn't have, or who didn't drink enough water or god knows what else. You take your life into your hands every time you do it. I'm not saying you're LIKELY to die when you do it....but htere IS that chance. I think what is much more fascinating, and much more elusive, is the drive that makes intelligent people do it, that weird little self-destructive impulse that you can't deny is there. Short attention spans? Pleasure threshhold is too high and can never be met? Think we're never going to die? Dying of boredom? What is it? Just don't give a f&*%k? I've never really known why I started. I can't sit here and say I don'e enjoy it, though it isn't the dazzling experience it once was, and I probably only do it like 2-3 times a year now, with special friends on "special" occasions. I can't say I'll never do it again. i don't even think it's necessary for me to say that. But I do agree with some people that the overwhelming presence of drugs has harmed, rather than enhanced, the scene. You see? I've talked myself in a total circle and still don't have any firm conviction on the subject. The scene wouldn't have come into existence without drugs (sorry but it wouldn't) yet the scene may be torn apart or irrevocably changed for the worse by drugs as well. i guess some might say I'm weak-minded. Well go ahead, whatever floats your boat. I get too caught up in the pro- and con- of it all.

Yeah I think it was a peer thing. Actually my best friend and I had our "E debut" at the same time...this was before we were in the scene...just two girls rolling at a party where everyone was drunk...and not really understanding what was happening to us either. Weeaarghh, what a weird night. I didn't really enjoy it until I got into the scene...well duh that makes sense.

I definitely have NO complaints about the talent they book at Twilo. The problem is the space itself. It is just too small, even the main dance floor isn't much of an open space. That, combined wiht all the advertising they do (I see their flyers posted on every other corner) brings in way, way too many people. I think Twilo should place a moratorium on street advertisements for like, two or three months, just to see if the crowds thin out and the demographic improves. Ooh, I'm such a snotty bitch... sorry!!!

JohnB, so sorry to hear you had a crap day trying to get into B+S!!! Glad to know I didn't miss anything...heh heh. I would have given up at that point too. Catch up w/you when you get back! Leanne

Someone said guys AT SOME point in the friendship will have sexual thoughts about eevry one of their female friends...I think it was raver mania who said it... Okay yeah I agree, but I also think women have sexual thoughts about their guy friends too. But they're just THOUGHTS. And in my case, they're only ever about guys I find at least somewhat attractive in the first place. It's not something I act on until I have totally sussed out the situation. What really amazes me is how a lot of guys can have sex with women who, not only do they not like them, they don't even find the woman attractive. When I think about hooking up with someone I didn't find attractive, all I can think of is the image of the next day, when I'm like completely at a loss for words, wouldn't want to be totally rude but hope to God he will leave soon....can't believe I did that, etc., etc. And that will 90% of the time override any inclination I had to hook up. I only ever get together with guys I'm interested in...I don't think that's the case for men.

You don't have to reply to this one, I'm not trying to start a thread. A very VERY close friend of mine just had some tissue removed from his neck....which turned out to be squamous cell carcinoma. WHich is cancer. I can't believe it. I mean he and his girlfriend haven't heard the results of the second opinion yet, and the doctors DO think they got everything out - BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT. He is 25, doesn't drink or smoke, it doesn't seem fair. I am hoping I guess maybe some of you guys will take a minute to think of him...his name is Jake...and pray that he is alright. Not a normal post I know but I knew I could reach a lot of people this way. He & his g/f don't know I told anyone, I'm intending to keep it anonymous. Just please send some good thoughts his way. Maybe he's fine (I hope). Anyway thanks. Leanne

NO WAY!!! Not to be a snotty purist but that is someone else's work. At least mix those tracks in a different order. or maybe it's okay to stick 2 songs that are often stuck together (Like raingod's "cry" and RITM's "out of body experience")But any more than 2-3 songs and I think it shows a lack of creativity. What I really love is to hear stuff I've never heard before, juxtaposed with stuff which is a familiar anthem. THAT is what gets me crazed!

lavkrap you are going? Damn, I wanted to meet up with you! Well have fun! I wish I could go!!!!

I agree with Randy. The less you make something taboo, the less people have a crazy demand for it. That's just human nature. Why do you think we all drink maniacally in college (or before) to get WASTED and then when you turn 21, it's like, no big deal. Plus legalization would end or severley hinder the drug cartels which are responsible for so much violence. I need to look into it further, but I do think legalization is the answer.

Hey trk, Sorry I got lost out of that thread, boss is back in town and I am fairly well under observation most of the time... Write me at leannegonzalez@hotmail.com and I'll discuss in more detail. I'd rather not post too many of my neuroses on this board. (but I'll tell you, a total stranger? Hmmm, but you asked a specific question!)

"Why do girls need drama?" We don't! I think drama is what ensues when you have 2 people doing a sexual thing and they're on different planes emotionally or mentally. It sucks. Unfortunately it happens MOST of the time. Plus I try really hard to be an ANTI-drama kind of girl. I see lots of girls (hate to use the word but BITCHES) who get whatever they want by whining or manipulating or trying to pull a power play...what they don't know is while their back is turned, their b/f DOES NOT behave himself. And those kind of guys always seek out those kind of girls. I think it's hard to find people who really want THE TRUTH, not just sex and drama. I never let anyone down easy, and the exes with whom our friendship is RUINED, is largely cuz they tried to appease and patronize me when breaking up. CUT TO THE CHASE PEOPLE.

I don't put in that many hours, but I defnitely need my down time. Which is sometimes "up time." But I'm also pursuing a career as a singer while working a day job...if you think about it then, I guess I do work about 60 hours a week, or at least 50. But then that is something that satisfies me on a deeper level than my office job, so it's different. Though sometimes I spend a weekend staying in and loafing around like an old lady. And I love that too! Somwtimes. Well okay not that often.

I always seem to have this ridiculous thing happen where my guy friends who I'm NOT attracted to develop crushes on me while guy friends who I find attractive can go one of two ways: either I discover something about them that makes me stop wanting them sexually and then we can be friends (hallelujah!) or else I get attached to them, and you know...it ends in pain sooner or later. Sometimes later, later is definitely better. But the "can men & women be friends" thing is a pretty big "if." Most of the time I'd say yeah, sure. But it takes the strongest person in the world to get over it and save the friendship, if there was an attraction and stuff happened, and the feelings between the two people aren't equal. I say that having been on both sides of the situation.

Hey look Shannah my post is right after yours! Well possibly not becuz I think it will be kind of long.... I honestly don't ever go out "hoping" to meet some guy, or trying to meet a guy. I used to do that when I was teenager, what a farce. My philosophy is that things that are meant to happen, DO happen... someone said "the bird of paradise alights only upon the hand that does not grasp." Of course sometimes I'm in need of taking my own advice, but we all have our moments. Even relationships that hurt you, teach you something....but I digress. NAh, I just go to dance. And talk to other people....not as men & women but just PEOPLE. If anything else starts to develop, cool. But in a club it's dark, loud, you may or may not be sober. I'd be nervous to trust someone right away, consequently I don't. It's just like daytime life. Friends first, other stuff later. Oh and I love to SING, draw, go for a run, eat good food and drink good wine, see films, and WHOEVER MENTIONED BUST A GROOVE, I have played that thing. My friend & I didn't move for five hours. I kicked her ass. That robot at the end is the best! BTW Shannah I enjoyed meeting you, ditto for all the Friday July 28 Vinyl people, drop me a liine: leannegonzalez@hotmail.com