Haha YES! The infamous "hey, let's all grind to house/trance music." Just more clear evidence that as yet, there is absolutely no scene in philly. Goddamn, when I get back this summer, I have to make sure to take many a trip to New York and DC. And about that DJ at Envy playing castles in the sky, i turn to you, etc : standard. Good songs, but yes, old and overplayed. I try to learn to live with it, especially being under 21 and being confined to shitty clubs like egypt and shampoo, where as you said, it is just a meat market atmosphere. Hey getting wasted and trying to get wit some girl is no crime, but lets get something together for the music lovers, a la Vinyl in NYC (no alc and no bullshit i hear...and DT) And Deep Dish are fucking great, I envy all of you that saw them, looking forward to seeing them should i venture to DC. One last thing, I read somewhere that Transit is a membership only club is or was that ever true, cuz i think id really like to go there if they have talent like Deep Dish coming through at times.