I totally agree that it has not been the same, but i've came to that realization 4 years ago when the k became more obvious in the scene ( it was mostly hits back then) and people were getting sick/puking in the garbage cans at sf. the workers there even put them out into the traffic paths of the club b/c they knew everyone was going to be a mess, then the hits went sour because the fda pulled the mixers off the shelves that were used to make the bombs, then the g came- anyway i remember when hex hector spun a 2/3 hour set pretty late on ktu (before the "level 5" bs came and how we hated dangerous dave, he was worst back then) and so hex was playing the fattest shit- i also remember how the whole scene used to be hush hush- an unspoken understanding- you didn't want to tell anyone, you wanted to keep it to yourself and not want anyone who didn't understand house music to come in and kill the vibe, the glam, the drags, and then all of a sudden... house music went commercial- the songs at that time were starting to get play on the radio, then the house music that was starting to play in the clubs were very electrical-no more drums !!! and it was all downhill from there. now, i am not saying that you all don't know what you're talking about, or that the music sucks today- this is all coming from someone that has been clubbing a very long time and has seen major changes in the clubs, music, people, and the vibe. It might be awesome for the people that came into the scene like within the past year or two-yes, I don't deny thier opinion- at all. But when you've been in the scene for almost 10 years, you can't help but to notice the fall and wish the music, clubs and people were the way it used to be. The people that have gotten into the scene within the past year or two will feel the same way as i do in about 5 years- it's just like that. One thing i will strongly say is that i wish back then that we had the great european names of today. we didn't have that. I remembered s&d being at twilo, but never going b/c twilo was almost impossible for anyone to get in if you weren't homosexual. The drags and guys would stand on line and would chant in a whisper like way "fish, fish, fish" if you were a girl trying to get in. so, ok, i could go on and on-sorry but, my opinion is that the whole thing has changed and i am not liking it as much as i used to. but i am glad that there are people out there loving it-it kinda brings back to me that feeling and that makes me smile again