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  1. Originally posted by ianjohn

    I wish I cen get a hold of a time machine and go to NYC 10 years ago.

    Tunnel was the bast party I have ever been to. Limelight and Twilo were the shit too. Nothing comes close to it to this day.

    WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MUSIC???

    WHAT HAPPANED TO THE TALENT???

    DOWN WITH CLEAR CHANNEL, THEY ARE DESTROYING EVERYTHING!!!

    we are the people who where responsible and destroyed everything..

  2. i feel like such a loser i was there till about 3:00, i had to leave to go to work..but had a great time..

    i think that was as close to a twilo night than we will ever see..

    people where great no problems at the door, s&d brought there a game it was great...

    no let me catch up on some sleep..

  3. Originally posted by klubbheadsor

    So your pretty much saying that the best club around right now is Avalon and that all the nights at Webster Hall blow? So all the nights at Webster Hall are a joke and are not worth spending a dime on?:confused:

    well ya

  4. Originally posted by Crackorn

    I'm actually surprised it took this long to close SF down. Of all the clubs I've been to, I don't think any of them had as blatant and open amount of drug use as SF. It's always sad when a place that people love so much closes down. RIP

    if people love this place so much, why did they let this happen in there club?

    to me it doesn't matter who owns the club, it's the people who attend the events that makes a club or not

  5. Originally posted by bumpdaddy

    I have to disagree...

    you didn't do everything in your power to stay open because :

    1. You didn't attempt to control the crowd outside your club. The law states that you have to make a "good faith effort" it also states the following:

    Establishments with capacity levels of 500 or more occupants will be required to have one state-certified security guard for every 50 occupants. These guards would also be responsible for maintaining order outside the establishment when needed.

    Nightlife establishments must make a good faith effort to ensure that the crowds entering or leaving do not cause disturbances and that vehicles outside are quiet. In addition, establishments will be required to keep the areas outside the establishment clean.

    2. With proper security no bar fight should escalate to the point where it becomes an issue...you're also mistaken about the violation. A club doesn't get a violation because a fight breaks out... here is what the law says

    DCA will be able to revoke a license if the location is repeatedly in violation of any three of the following egregious City or State laws: unlicensed sale of liquor; sale of liquor to minors; overcapacity; disabled sprinkler systems, exit signs or emergency lighting; blocked or locked exits; assault; rape or attempted rape; possessions of weapons; or homicide.

    A fight is not an assault or rape.. in order for the club to get a violation .. one of the fighters has to be formally charged with assault. Even then the violation can be reversed if the individual isn't convicted.

    3. Flyers on the ground just shouldnt be there. Other businesses are fined for this... why should a nightclub be any different? If the flyers are on the ground they're obviously not doing much promotion for you anyway...

    People are against this and they dont even know why... You should be concentrating your efforts on this:

    http://www.emdef.org/hr834/

    This is the government at work trying to discourage club owners and promoters from even throwing a party...

    1.who's to say what good faith means..and how many clubs have you been to..i've seen crazy security out side, and a club still has people all over the place..have you ever seen it outside on a night a big dj spins exp. sasha&digweed,PVD,it's always crazy.

    and what about the smokers, what i'm sapouse to stand out side and smoke my cig in silence..usually everyone is pretty wild up for the night so when your outside smoking it's pretty hard just to stand there and be quiet.

    2.the flyers out side are usually not from your club, your right about othe buisness being fined for litter, and so should a club, but if you got guys from all over handing out flyer, either in front of your club or down the block, what do you do..

    3.i'm not shore about the fighting and the assault..but isn't an assualt when someone hits you?

    4.and i'll give anther violation, drug selling in the club..

    i don't care how much security you put in the drugs are going to find there way in..that's why they close twilo wasn't it..i use feel like i was getting a full cavity surch at twilo, but drugs still found there way in.

    and if someone doesn't want you open, whether it's someone who lives on the block or your local compition, it's very easy for them to close you down.

  6. 'Drug dealers killed my sister'

    The family of a 16-year-old girl who died after taking ecstasy have appealed for help to find the dealer who gave her the drug.

    Sophie Ksher, from Arlesey in Bedfordshire, died a week after attending an illegal rave at a disused factory in Cressex, High Wycombe.

    She had fallen during the night, hit her head and ended up in a coma.

    Her family have urged anyone who was at the rave on 31 January to give police information about drug dealers.

    Thames Valley Police said Sophie was among about 400 people at the rave.

    The people who put my 16-year-old sister in an environment of drugs and alcohol need to be stopped to prevent other people from having to go through what we have

    Sophie's brother Mark

    After hitting her head she was taken to Wycombe General Hospital where she fell into a coma.

    The teenager, who had taken three ecstasy tablets, was then transferred to the Radcliffe Infirmary, Oxford, where she died on 6 February.

    Sophie's brother Mark, 29, said on Wednesday he blamed drug dealers for her death.

    "She was a victim of tragic circumstances, influenced by older people who did not care about her welfare," he said.

    "The people who put my 16-year-old sister in an environment of drugs and alcohol need to be stopped to prevent other people from having to go through what we have.

    "Our whole family still has not been able to come to terms with her death and can only hope Sophie realises that we never stopped loving her and never will."

    He added: "We will all remember our Sophie as the happy, loving, beautiful young girl who had the cheeky little grin that made everyone's heart melt.

    "She loved being involved in sports activities at school, horse riding - she desperately wished that she would have a horse of her own one day - but most of all she loved spending time with her family and friends."

    Det Insp Phillip Chandler said the injury to Sophie's head had been thought to be quite minor.

    "We think she was knocked unconscious briefly and said she felt groggy," he said.

    "She told paramedics and medical staff that she had taken some tablets.

    Legal action

    "And yet she seemed OK at that point. However, after that her condition apparently deteriorated."

    Mr Chandler said the rave organisers would be facing legal action.

    Sophie was one of a family of four sisters and two brothers.

    Her parents Madaline and Mustafa, an aircraft technician, were too upset to talk publicly.

    Anyone with any information about drug dealers at the event can contact the police on 0845 8505 505 or call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

    Story from BBC NEWS:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/3479237.stm

    Published: 2004/02/11 18:22:54 GMT

    © BBC MMIV

  7. Originally posted by bumpdaddy

    the intent of the proposed law is to keep the community boards happy. The main complaint from community boards is always the noise and reckless patrons... Community boards arent really concerned with what goes on inside a club. They are however very concerned about loud music and drunk patrons getting rowdy in the neighborhood. The permit process is much simpler than the existing cabaret licensing process and much cheaper. Depending on the capacity of the venue it will cost anywhere from 500 to 1000 dollars. DCA also claims that the turnaround time for permiting will be 30 days or less..Soundproofing and having an audio engineer available to sign off is something that a reputable club owner does anyway. As for people claiming this will make it easier for clubs to get shut down.. its already too late to be bringing that up... Any club can be shut down at any time if theres an investifation. Even with the tightest security... drugs get through and people get drunk and fight. I'm sure any club in the country could be shut down if the government wanted it shut. The rave act insures that... This law is not about persecuting club owners... its about weeding out the disreputable and unprofessional ones.

    this law sucks plain and simple..

    i'll give you an example..

    you open a club, get it certified,get all the permits,etc, now your legal.

    now do you know how easy it is to get 3 violations..

    people are out side smoking cig..neighbors complain. violation 1

    someone starts a fight in your club.. violation 2

    you have some flyier's on the street pass 6:00. violation 3

    now your closed..you did everything in your power to stay open.what do you do next?

    you can't sugar coat this law

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