that was not a vibe in crobar.....that was a show....that is part of the game.....Lets say an 'manufactured vibe'...i myself spin mainly trance and love much of the track selection by tiesto/armin... and believe me i'm not a big fan of Junior....i do enjoy Jonathon....but one thing these guys got over the the overseas crew(of course not all) is creating a vibe in the room....tiesto..armin...they all just slap on track after track....get a choppy feel to it all night...never any direction.....junior/jonathon they work that night to bring the place to a busting point.....peeps out there know what i'm talking about.....a vibe in my book is when its prolle about 6-8 am in the morning....the dance floor is crowded but plenty of room for u dance freely...its dark.....some occasional lights...and strobe bursts..there are no breaks in the music....nobody is socailizing...no one's try'n to pick up...there are just people bouncing on the floor....everyone one has been pulled into there head.....the mind is quiet...your movement is effortless.....u just hear a wooom wooom wooom wooom.......and u can actually see when someone come to that pinnacle point.......u don't see it all the time......when there just popping there cork....not just dancing good or showboating.......but gett'n to the point like there dancing as if no ones watching.........u get a bunch of people sync'd up like that at one time .....the whole night has been to bring it to that point......and just like your feeling at that moment so is the dj........nobody has to raise hands to acknowledge it.....u don't have to look and see if the dj is jump'n up and down and smiling.......u know he's right there with u..........the room is one ...one 'vibe'bration amazin thing with carl cox is i think he might be able to summon that at will.. i definately did not get that in crobar....maybe alot happy people! when armin spun roxy last year he did get the 'vibe' goin IMO.....everytime after that he's had that choppy feel.....same with PVD before these guys got huge there were play'n with a lot of heart.....the money and WKTU gets involved and there done....play'n crap mainstream .....play'n tracks off there labels even if there not feeling them anymore just to sell copies..... the whole fuckin scene is a joke!!! ...well nevermind me i am just disgusted with the new york club scene right now.....all these new fancy, super expensive clubs and there all junk.......