qouth, i think you hit it on the head!! sorry , bad expression... the one that say they have talent are full of it.. the quite ones are usually better!!!! and perns2002, send them baby!!!! standards come in all different situations!!! got to be over 25!! no young boys.. clean cut but, not square.. got to enjoy that 4:20..... men have equal problems with women. so i'm not ragging on the men. men bitch about women slacking on blow jobs after time passes in their relationship. is it all worth it??