Ciattic yeah sure the "self portaits were a bit dodgy, that was before the got pro pics taken... still everyone's a critic You probaby prefer this anyway Not a hand drawn image in site. BY the way, I'm no fuckin' newbie so either try a little extension of thought, or shut up. I belive I heard it is so much more difficult to try and say good things instead of sticking with the sheep. and you.