Yeah, i remember the quick check, isn't it by Shoprite... Unfortunetly all of those diners you mentioned close late and not 24hr... I was on a mission one time to find one that's open at 4 something... and I had to drive all the way down to East Hanover on route 10 to find one that was still open. That was when i still lived in Sparta... I have yet to check out the park on the other side of Denville with a lake... Looked really nice when I drove by it. I'm just babbling... Also, have you been to this Thai restuarant in downtown Denville... on the side street next to the grociery store? I was wondering if it was any good...