Hey Mask I will be there this sat. Or at least I say I will be there cause I my partner in crime is mia. I don't like going there by myself but I don't know. Maybe I will. I haven't been there in a hot minute. Oh and that icon really is not a good one. I just made it in paint. But with photoshop or xara 3d or a combination I am sure you can make a real good looking one. Some people may use paint shop pro also. I guess it depends how you want to make it. There are also progs for the animated ones which I think ulead has one. I am gonna make a real one soon. Anyway hope to see you soon dawg as well as chelsea17. Peace Out!