Hey, Ede.. with ya 100%. Some women may like it, others don't..it's a personal thing, and it doesn't make anyone a whore. (unless they want to be..lol) Guys seem to turn things that THEY are scared and insecure about right back on the girl.. not cool.. that's ok though, we can read a bullshit-loser a mile away. Guys like to talk shight with eachother..but, ya never know what really goes on behind closed doors..no do we?? haha! Yeah, they probably get drenched in the face by their women and are totally embarrassed about loving it!! hahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! No, jk. seriously.. not judging anyone here, just hate dishonesty. You are a cool guy Ede..and will have the best women by your side for sure. btw- love the esoteric way..it's the ONLY way.. the inner meanings are hidden, but they are there for those who have the eyes to see. have a great weekend! D-M;)