It's all booked now, so can't really change, but everyone is happy with the location and prepared to cab it to Arc, I imagine that will be the only time we'll end up around that area anyway as will spend the rest of the time killing my credit card in Manhatten. I expect we'll be too tired on the Friday to see Tenaglia after a 7 hour flight. But thanks for the offer. I'll try and keep an eye on here in the run up to the event, see whose going and maybe hook up and say hello and have a ermm, water, lol. you'll be able to catch me on the John 00 Fleming Message Board anyway. Ade