I'd like to hear this discussion on bikes. I agree that too much is never enough, look @ the Bugatti 16/4 with the W16 engine, or that new Chrysler ME412. What I also agree with is how people look @ americans and say "why all the power?" I vacation in Italy where Diesel powered engines are starting to grow popular as gas prices go up and average engine sizes are below 2.0. I have a '96 avenger w/ a 2.5 V6 and when they hear the size & HP they're are just completely astounded. Then again, if you took some of my friends who are pushing 2 & 300hp+ and put it on their back roads, they're 1.4 cylinder fiats will leave them in the dust.