When i lived in manhattan i wanted a Cute nice looking ride, i got the TC, loaded, with 18' ground effect's Spring's, Subwwoofer, it was about 23k with tax, but u can get a base Stock one for 17,500 k i loved the car! it was quicker then the Base RSX i drove, and it was really nice. i sold it a few weeks before i left the city, and got a brand new M3, That im Trading in for a lexus., the BMW rattles more then the Tc ever did.. Go with the TC