up2late

OK, so basically your position is that if I don't take *politicians* at face value, then I'm crazy and believe that we're living in the Matrix. Yeah, this discussion is over. Grow up.

See y'all there!

I was a NASA baby myself, a little too young to really know what is being talked about here. But it is still a good read, and all the stuff about people playing the wall and showing up to be seen and not to dance almost brings a tear to my eye. I also have to agree that you shouldn't write something like this about the NY dance scene and leave Frankie Bones out. Some love him, some hate, most are somewhere in between, but leaving him out is like writing about NY sports and leaving out Steinbrenner or Wellington Mara.

Boris benefits a lot from the people who will go to a party just because they think everyone else is going to that party. I went to catch Boris for my boy's B-day a few months ago, and we were there for maybe 4 hours. There were tracks he spun 2 and 3 times, in a 4 hour timespan. Not 3 different mixes of a track, the same damn track 3 times. And I wasn't fucked up on anything besides a few beers, so I am damn sure this was the case. I got no love for a DJ that pulls that, especially with the kind of dough and fame he is getting these days.

Exactly.

Hell yea it was off the hook! Rogers and Zabiela had me and my people getting down on some old wildstyle crazy-legs type vibe. The floor stayed packed the whole time we were there.

Word. I go out to chill with my friends, to meet people, to have a few drinks or whatever, sure. But I mainly go to DANCE to the music. You betta believe that unless it is an ultra special occasion, I am rocking my New Balances. I have no problem at all with looking good and dressing proper... but come on, if you are there to dance you have to have the appropriate footwear.

Dave, you can keep trusting the opinions and "facts" from alleged terrorist kooks and professional politicians because you're afraid you might not get pussy if you don't just parrot what comes out of the TV. Like I said, you go on and a good time with that. I don't see why this has to be about what a herb I am - either the shit went down one way or another way... I personally don't list conformity high on my list of reasons to do or think anything. It's all you, dude. <cue gloating over how destruction and I were "owned" or some garbage>

Originally Posted by up2late 1) Where is the "proof" that Al-Qaeda even exists? >They declared war on us in 1990 and have blown up lots of stuff since then. And we have captured many members. >>And who is your source for this information? 2) Or that OBL is no longer a CIA asset? >We are at war with them. I would say that makes him anything but an asset. >> Source? Apparently the idea that the government might lie to you is something that never crossed your mind. 3) Prove AQ didn't plant the bombs too? >You can not prove a negative >>Prove that the planes were the primary cause of collapse, for any of the 3 WTC towers. And I said prove, not some more "the gov't said X" hype. AGAIN: I'm not saying any of the popular theories are the actual truth, I think it is more like NONE of them including the story that came out of the Kean Commission are the actual truth. Are we now in the habit of taking OBL at his word? >Granted before the war, we mostly ignored him. But we are definitely in the habit of taking his comments very seriously now! 4) What does ANY of this have to do with my sex life? >The immense amount of time you spend on wackiness prevents you from getting laid. If you focused more on getting laid, in an effort to woo the ladies, you would be forced to start accepting reality and start acting like a more intelligent human being. >> Good to know that getting laid is more important to you than knowing the truth. Also good to know that you think you can only get laid by fronting about your beliefs and telling people what they like to hear. Enjoy that. 5) How would you prove ANY theory about the actual event that brought down the WTC towers, since the steel was melted and shipped to China YEARS ago? >My extensive research in physics has taught me that giant airplanes flying into buildings causes great damage. As an experiment, I suggest you drive your car into your house at full speed and see if anything happens. I bet stuff will get fucked up and something might even fall down. And I bet that the day you do it someone will not simultaneously plant a bomb in your house. 6) Explain how a fire that can ruin several steel frame buildings to the point of collapse leaves a passport intact to be found by the authorities days later? >Where was the passport? where did it end up? More importantly, who cares!?! A passport survived, but that doesn't mean airplanes crashing doesn't cause damage. >>http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,669961,00.html In less than a week came another find, two blocks away from the twin towers, in the shape of Atta's passport. We had all seen the blizzard of paper rain down from the towers, but the idea that Atta's passport had escaped from that inferno unsinged would have tested the credulity of the staunchest supporter of the FBI's crackdown on terrorism. -------------------------------------------- There are too many parts of this story that don't add up. I don't claim to know exactly what happened, I claim that none of us know (or probably ever will know) exactly what happened. All I'm saying is that the official version of this story is hogwash. >No one will ever know anything exactly. But that is just life. What we do know is that 2 planes flew into the building which started a fire. We also know that shortly after that, the buildings collapsed. To me the most likely story is that the planes caused the collapse! >>with no other information available, a totally acceptable assumption. However, with numerous reports of secondary explosions, a huge rush to remove all the evidence form the country and melt it, etc. I find that pretty hard to take at face value. -------------------------------- Again, I suggest you focus on getting laid and this bizarre dream of yours will soon wither away. Also, if you need any sextoys, please visit my site SEXTOY.com >>I suggest you focus on getting with someone that doesn't require you to play dumb or tell them only what they want to hear all the time. You know where you can put your dildos.

1) Where is the "proof" that Al-Qaeda even exists? 2) Or that OBL is no longer a CIA asset? 3) Prove AQ didn't plant the bombs too? Are we now in the habit of taking OBL at his word? 4) What does ANY of this have to do with my sex life? 5) How would you prove ANY theory about the actual event that brought down the WTC towers, since the steel was melted and shipped to China YEARS ago? 6) Explain how a fire that can ruin several steel frame buildings to the point of collapse leaves a passport intact to be found by the authorities days later? There are too many parts of this story that don't add up. I don't claim to know exactly what happened, I claim that none of us know (or probably ever will know) exactly what happened. All I'm saying is that the official version of this story is hogwash.

Fair enough oldtimer. It is true that no one source or one photo can be accepted as the definitive source of the truth when it comes to such a sensitive and important matter.

Now I suppose that you will be explaining how a large building with asymmetrical damage to one corner collapsed, in it's entirety, symmetrically across the entire footprint of the building.

"The guy who started this thread is claiming that a giant airplane didn't bring down the building. In fact it was brought down by someone else who coincidentally brought it down on the day the plane hit the building." Do you have reading comprehension problems? No one is saying it is a coincidence. And I really don't see what anyone's sex life has to do with whether or not the official version of the events of 9/11/01 are the actual truth. I don't see why it is so hard to simply say "I believe X or don't believe Y" instead of resorting to childish insults about being crazy and not getting laid.

1) Certainly there are those who are only out for themselves and are only railing against Bush and the neocons because it is a product they can sell. Than there are those who back the neocons and Bush for the same reasons. 2) Re: the supposed desire on my part to "destroy ones own country"... I am not the one who got caught out there referring to the Constitution as "just a piece of paper". 3) Do you have any idea who you are aligning yourself with, a person like President Bush?

OK, "Doctor", all due respect, what you have just posted here is not "logic", it is a bunch of biased rhetorical horsecrap. This is a discussion of irregularities with the official story of the 9-11 attacks. No one said a single thing about hurricanes killing black people or assassinating reindeer except *YOU*.