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OMG, I'm gunna have to go to Velvet

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Still feel wierd when I go there even though I've been to quite a number of gay clubs in the past for work puroses (I can just see it coming from a mile away...).

But I saw on the City Paper that Pet Shop Boys are gunna be there on the 18th..the day after Lawler is at Buzz, no way in f****g hell am I missing PSB, so I'll just deal with Velvet.

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ohmahgawd! i love pet shop boys! i won't be here that weekend, but are they on tour?

i liked one of the residents there, eric strickland? somefink like that. he plays some good diva house, very ecletic though, ranged from j lo to danny t. . .in the front room

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work purposes? at gay clubs? i don't think i wanna know.

the concert's actually BEFORE velvet but if u go to see the show u get free entry to velvet...

cat...straight guys at velvet have a lot to "deal" with...just like girls do when they go to places like glow :/

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Originally posted by funkyfreshdc

work purposes? at gay clubs? i don't think i wanna know.

the concert's actually BEFORE velvet but if u go to see the show u get free entry to velvet...

cat...straight guys at velvet have a lot to "deal" with...just like girls do when they go to places like glow :/

I've been to Velvet many times and never had any problems. I ALWAYS have a god time, though. The vibe there is great...Those gay boys sure know how to partie.

Scratch, it was nice seeing you the other night, too. The DJ's name is Darryl Strickland.

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Originally posted by wideskies

no one likes feeling like a piece of meat. the problem isn't gay men, it's MEN... heh. (i know i know, not all men .. blahblahblah.. some women do it too blahblahblah...)

:>

Werd, yo! 'Course - I've been attacked by a couple of girls in my time too! ;)

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Originally posted by wideskies

oh yeah, "dealing" with all those gays sure sucks huh? *eyeroll*

well it actually weird, 'cos I work in HIV/AIDS prevention & research so in the past I've had to surveys and interviews at gay clubs depending on the project I've worked in (ask about La Escuelita in NYC), but didnt make a big deal out of it, but when Ive gone there for party purposes it just feals different.

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Originally posted by vicman

well it actually weird, 'cos I work in the escort business so in the past I've had to "accompany" some "clients" at gay clubs depending on the queerness I've worked at (ask about La Escuelita in NYC), but didnt make a big deal out of it, but when Ive gone there for party purposes it just feals "different".

I'm sure it does feel "different" thats what they all say.......

But what happened at La Escuelita? Was that when uhh you know what happened:rolleyes:

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Originally posted by pgiddy

I'm sure it does feel "different" thats what they all say.......

But what happened at La Escuelita? Was that when uhh you know what happened:rolleyes:

a subtle addition of the " " huh pgiddy?

i equally feel weird when guys take their shirts off at clubs, thats why i dont like SF.

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The one time I went to Velvet I was surprised that there was no search at all. was like, "What the fuck? Only us that go to Buzz get violated? Like we're all a bunch of fucking crackheads? Oh, wait..."

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Originally posted by Kuro

The one time I went to Velvet I was surprised that there was no search at all. was like, "What the fuck? Only us that go to Buzz get violated? Like we're all a bunch of fucking crackheads? Oh, wait..."

yeah, you could walk in with a whole arsenal of weapons, and other shit and no one would notice..

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Originally posted by Kuro

The one time I went to Velvet I was surprised that there was no search at all. was like, "What the fuck? Only us that go to Buzz get violated? Like we're all a bunch of fucking crackheads? Oh, wait..."

That is wrong. I could see more drama and shit coming froma bunch of queens than I could from a bunch of club heads. And I am hoping that the security on friday nights is just to protect us from someone bringing in weapons and gum. I would hate the fact that I stepped on a piece of gum and then tracked it out to my car.

Thats something I just can't get over, no candy of any type.

I will tell you now that if you ever see me with gum, don't ask for a piece cause it has been close to something very personel and I don't think you really want it. I feel like a criminal sneaking gum in the same place that I would stash my drugs or weapon if I had one.

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Originally posted by vicman

yeah, you could walk in with a whole arsenal of weapons, and other shit and no one would notice..

I thought about that, too. What if some psychotic decides that he wants to kill a bunch of gay guys? He could walk right up in there armed to the teeth.

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Originally posted by Kuro

The one time I went to Velvet I was surprised that there was no search at all. was like, "What the fuck? Only us that go to Buzz get violated? Like we're all a bunch of fucking crackheads? Oh, wait..."

I think we can point to that channel 5 news special a little while ago for our "special" Friday night treatment.

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Originally posted by crank47

I think we can point to that channel 5 news special a little while ago for our "special" Friday night treatment.

yeah, but it also brings up the question if those same people that brought the Buzz issue to the authorities care at all about the gay community, 'cos I'm pretty sure that all the stuff that went on on Friday went on on Saturday

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Originally posted by vicman

yeah, but it also brings up the question if those same people that brought the Buzz issue to the authorities care at all about the gay community, 'cos I'm pretty sure that all the stuff that went on on Friday went on on Saturday

I'd have to say NO. I think the gay community has a very different influence and power base compared to the the usual crowd at Buzz. The gay community in DC is quite large and influential, esp. compared to Buzz crowd. Think about it, it's easy to make a stink that they were "going after the gays" making Fox 5 look really bad and hitting them with a boycott of their sponsers etc... vs. "look at your drugged up kids," type crap.

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Originally posted by vicman

yeah, but it also brings up the question if those same people that brought the Buzz issue to the authorities care at all about the gay community, 'cos I'm pretty sure that all the stuff that went on on Friday went on on Saturday

A bunch of middle class 18 - 24 raver kids are considered more important than a bunch of (generally) older gay men. The ravers are "our kids" that we must protect vs. "those gays" who can OD for all we care. And as a result of this attitude I get a body cavity search when I go to Buzz (I must look sketchy or something).

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Here's some history from the Buzz site on what happened for those who don't know what we're talking about:

There is an unfortunate chapter in Buzz's history. In May of ’99 local Fox affiliate (Channel 5) reporter Elisabeth Leamy, went into the club with a hidden camera. Although she caught footage of ravers admitting they use drugs, other commonplace behavior caught on the grainy video was reinterpreted and sensationalized: she claimed that cigarettes were “joints,” raver hugs were "sex acts," glowsticks and water bottles were "paraphernalia." Even more ludicrous was the staged footage of powder left on tables by ravers "who had gone off to dance." Ms. Leamy's suggestion that illegal drugs were left in plain sight on tables was so preposterous that you laughed out loud when you watched. But to quote Green Velvet, “it was no laughing matter.” Under pressure from local authorities, Buzz was forced to shut down temporarily.

The effect that this newscast had on the city was tremendous. Mary Morris, a self-proclaimed geriatric raver who works at The Washington Post, agreed to a TV interview in which she vigorously defended the club as a "place that she feels comfortable taking her kids." Mary helped organize two boisterous Friday night protests outside the Wisconsin Ave. offices of Fox 5.

With everyone decked out in yellow (for yellow journalism), ravers disappointed with the TV misrepresentation waved glowsticks, blew whistles and carried signs protesting the negative coverage. Drivers honked their support as they passed, and close to 400 – 600 people asserted their right to assembly on two consecutive weekends. The feeling of unity, galvanized by the slanderous newscast and a loss of a club that was "home" to many, was a feeling that we will not forget. Local music producers even made records sampling Ms. Leamy's memorable characterization of ravers with "lazy hands and vacant eyes."

When Buzz reopened later that summer, certain conditions were imposed. Any overt paraphernalia such as Vicks Vap-O-Rub, dust masks and pacifiers was banned. These guidelines cleaned up the local scene's image quite a bit. By the time of the Millennium Party on Dec. 31, 1999, Buzz was aiming for even higher stakes in the 21st Century.

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Originally posted by Kuro

A bunch of middle class 18 - 24 raver kids are considered more important than a bunch of (generally) older gay men. The ravers are "our kids" that we must protect vs. "those gays" who can OD for all we care. And as a result of this attitude I get a body cavity search when I go to Buzz (I must look sketchy or something).

Don't they know you're straight edge? Oh, that's right, you're not anymore. You're the Clit Commander now.

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Originally posted by nourishment

Don't they know you're straight edge? Oh, that's right, you're not anymore. You're the Clit Commander now.

Baby, I've ALWAYS been the Clit Commander pussyeater.gif

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