tastey Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by hoke The alpha/beta classification is tired. Some of us are gammas... not popular assholes, not submissive pushovers, just our own person.The alpha/beta stereotypes do sell lots of books and magazines though. no, you can basically classify everyone into alpha or beta. see a group for example, there is always an alpha, a leader whose opinion has the greatest impact on the group for example. even this alpha might become, in the presense of another stronger alpha, beta. you see it all the time. observe a group of people when an "alpha" joins the group, the others, even those that were alpha before become beta. what is real funny is when there are two alphas in a group, either one of them gets beta instinctivly or they challenge each other, the one who loses transfroms into a beta. there can only be one alpha in each group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr0ne Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 alpha, beta, gamma jesus christ talk in english please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prplhz Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 I go out with the nicest guy in the world, he is so nice but has a mind of his own. It's the best feeling ever to be with someone you know is genuine, nice and sexy as hell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoke Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by tastey no, you can basically classify everyone into alpha or beta. see a group for example, there is always an alpha, a leader whose opinion has the greatest impact on the group for example. even this alpha might become, in the presense of another stronger alpha, beta. you see it all the time. observe a group of people when an "alpha" joins the group, the others, even those that were alpha before become beta. what is real funny is when there are two alphas in a group, either one of them gets beta instinctivly or they challenge each other, the one who loses transfroms into a beta. there can only be one alpha in each group. For the record, I really do think of my friends as gammas. We don't have a recognizable leader.Obviously I disagree with you, but you clearly have very set opinions about human behavior, so I think we're just going to have to go our separate ways on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoke Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by dr0ne alpha, beta, gamma jesus christ talk in english please. First of all, you have to draw a distinction between inter- and intra-group relations.*INTERGROUP RELATIONS*alpha = the "A" crowd, in high school usually the jocks, etc. They run the school and are generally though of as bullies.beta = the "B" crowd, the people who get picked on. Losers, rejects, not by choice but by tragic social inevitability.gamma = their own crowd. These people are neither alphas nor betas; they go their own way, set their own trends, and generally lead very happy, successful lives.*INTRAGROUP RELATIONS*alpha = the "A" man, the one who sets the trends and who everybody wants to be. Think of the guy in "Never Been Kissed" who coined the term "rufus."beta = the "B" man, the guy who wants to be the "A" man but can only hope to be a weak imitation (think "Heathers").gamma = his own person, commonly found in a gamma group. I don't think of gamma groups as having strong alpha/beta intragroup relations.Did that make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastyt Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by xtotaleclipsex The way I see it...I am a fairly nice person, but I know I have my bitch moments and the guy that I am talking about that asked me out is the kind of guy that would just take my shit without saying anything about it and also the kind of guy that would become whipped if you know what I am mean. And I'm not attracted to guys like this. I'm just wondering, would you guys be attracted to a girl that is too nice....that would not get mad about anything..etc? Agreed 100%... sometimes you just have to be a bitch (umm, PMS anyone?), and you need a guy who understands that, who will let you bitch when necessary... but who won't take too much shit and will put you back in your place when it gets out of line, lol...I hate to say it, but I tend to be really mean to people who are "too" nice... it's completely subconscious, I'd never do it on purpose, but it's like I have to test my boundaries with them and see where the breaking point is...Good thing I haven't met many people who fall into this category... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycchic24 Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by phuturephunk . . . It's all about the challenge . . . I'm a nice guy, but honestly, I have to say I do a very good job at covering the asshole side of me. . . That is, when I feel like it . . Of course . . . . . It could be a number of things... i agree that alot of it may be the Challenge. and i think that sometimes its just the Chemistry or spark that so many of us have spoken about on the baord. i have dated a guy or two.. .and everything adds up -- nice guy, looks, job etc but something still seems to be lacking.. you dont want someone who's going to be a doormat, but obviously you dont want someone who's going to dick you over -- IMO its about finding i guess a balance between good v evil heheheyou know many girls go through the whole Bad boy phase -- i've def dated my share and i 've dated some "nice guys" along the way also so when soomeone asks me if i like bad boys or good guys? i figured out that i want a nice guy with an edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by nycchic24 you know many girls go through the whole Bad boy phase -- i've def dated my share and i 've dated some "nice guys" along the way also so when soomeone asks me if i like bad boys or good guys? i figured out that i want a nice guy with an edge completely agreed:tongue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatman Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by tastyt I hate to say it, but I tend to be really mean to people who are "too" nice... you've never been mean to me....you bitch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahoo Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 I'm a nice guy desiring to be bad....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastyt Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by phatman you've never been mean to me....you bitch... Watch out buddy... cuz you never know when this kitten will bear her claws... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdancer Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by phuturephunk . . . It's all about the challenge . . . I'm a nice guy, but honestly, I have to say I do a very good job at covering the asshole side of me. . . That is, when I feel like it . . Of course . . . . . I can be an asshole to, but I prefer to be nice... Heres an article I came accross ! It’s amazing that assholes can get girls. Actually, now that I think of it, it’s not that amazing. They are assholes at heart, but to meet girls they lavish their undying love. IT’S A CHARADE. They act nice, friendly, and they listen… until they get into what they’re after. Their prey thinks they are in love with them, however when they realize what assholes their predators really are, they pretend like the asshole is really nice inside. The girl tries to change the asshole into a nice guy, but assholes will always be assholes. She gets upset and goes to the nice guy to complain about the asshole. But she claims to love the asshole… now this is where the theory begins. She doesn’t want to look like she is easy so she wont dump the asshole right away, instead she will stay with the asshole. Girls are idiots. They don’t realize that the nice guy has been there all along. He never had to pretend to be a good guy to get girls because he is naturally like that. However, girls don’t see it for some reason or another. They look at the nice guy as a friend, a trusted companion to whom they can tell their sad story to about their asshole boyfriend. But the nice guy isn’t THAT naïve. He was trying to score with the girl he listens to all along. The problem is that since he is a nice guy he keeps listening. Since girls get attached to things that pay attention to them, they think of the nice guy as a friend. A FRIEND. They don’t say, “Oh he’s hot†or “I want to have his children†about the nice guy, they just want the emotional support. When they get the emotional support from the nice guy, they don’t need it from the asshole. The nice guy gets the shit end of the stick while the asshole gets all the action. I am starting to wonder if being a nice guy is really the route to take to get action… I have been down this path for all of my post-pubescent life and it has gotten me NOWHERE… at least not in the women department. Perhaps another reason why girls fall for the asshole is because assholes ignore the girl they are with. The women wonder, “Why isn’t he paying attention to me?†so they explore why. They poke and prod and get closer to the asshole. They start to get easier with each attempt to get closer. The asshole finally says, “I’ve let this beauty dangle long enough, time to boat this bassâ€. It is then he puts on his charade and the girl feels like she has won him… even thought all she has won is an asshole.Once you have gone down the path as a nice guy or a “listener†you can’t turn back. The girl will always go after the assholes because there are always nice guys there to listen. Once you realize that you are a “listener†you cant do anything about it… just pack up and close shop. There is no way you will get into her pants… ever. There is and never will be a situation where the nice guy will get the girl he has a crush on. It just doesn’t work like that. The girl wont “come to her senses†and realize what an asshole her boyfriend is like in the movies… instead she will just go after another asshole, and unless you stop being a nice guy, she will never go after you. Women complain that there are no nice guys in the world. Right. They are obviously not looking hard enough because there are nice guys EVERYWHERE!!!! Girls aren’t looking for nice guys… they say they are but they’re not. They are looking for the perfect asshole, but there is NO SUCH THING as the perfect asshole.All in all, the nice guy gets the shaft. To all the girls out there with boyfriends that don’t treat you with respect, that don’t listen to you, and that don’t care about you I say this; look next to you. The guy that has been standing next to you the whole time is the guy you have been looking for. He is what you want your asshole to be like. He knows more about you than you know about yourself… because he has listened to it all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahoo Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 rdance that is a damn thesis. Someone give me cliff notes version please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatman Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by tastyt Watch out buddy... cuz you never know when this kitten will bear her claws... did you mean to use the word "bear"... that was damn good even if you didnt...either way...same here...no one here has seen me truly angry and to be honest, it's better that way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothzane Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Stop thinking about it.Just jump his bones and figure it out later.Your just wasting time with "What if?"Never hold yourself backLet it go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastey Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by rdancer Heres an article I came accross ! It’s amazing that assholes can get girls. Actually, now that I think of it, it’s not that amazing. They are assholes at heart, but to meet girls they lavish their undying love. IT’S A CHARADE. They act nice, friendly, and they listen… until they get into what they’re after. what about the nice guys that pretend to be assholes to get chicks, like me? :( just kidding :laugh: genius article btw, except that the last paragraph will probably not happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastyt Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by phatman did you mean to use the word "bear"... that was damn good even if you didnt...hahaha... pun not intended... :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by xtotaleclipsex Recently this guy that I work with asked me out....he's really cute and all and he's really sweet, but that is what seems to be the problem. He's too nice of a guy. I hate the fact that I feel this way but the fact that he is so nice of a guy annoys the shit out of me! As a friend he'd be great, but as for anything else I don't know. I mean I don't want an asshole by any means, but I guess there has to be some type of chalenge right? Why do we have to make things difficult for ourselves? Has anyone else felt this way or gone through this? theres a fine line between, niceguy and pathetic... some ppl are genuinely nice and others are nice out of fear and etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebitch Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 i dont know any "nice guys". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr0ne Posted June 25 Report Share Posted June 25 so whoever wrote the article bullshitted at the end, but came up with the solution probably without even knowing it.....the solution is.....BECOME THE PERFECT ASSHOLE!thats right. now, what the fuck is a perfect asshole? i have no clue, but if anyone figures out, you'll be getting some serious ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtotaleclipsex Posted June 25 Author Report Share Posted June 25 Originally posted by tastey i think you´re not kidding at all I think I know my own intentions pretty well thanks:tongue: Well the "nice guy" called yesturday so I have to return the call...we'll see how it goes...its just a date anyway and I'm not looking for anything serious yet (only 19) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elpapi Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 Originally posted by ghhhhhost give the nice guy a chance...its only fairwhat bothers me is the level of stupidity a person can achieve..ive seen soooooo many good guys n girls get dicked over left n right by these individuals that people call "risque" or "mysterious" ...its like ppl are attracted to assholes and dumb bitches...and the only thing that comes out of that is one person emotionally scars another..and then that emotionally scarred person takes it out on someone else and it keeps on going..it never ends I coudnt said it better, and that's why I'm and asshole now-- JUST KIDDING. By expirience I know that women just like assholes better. I have being both good/bad /'asshole, and women just seem to like assholes. Go figure... In the same note. I think I'm the same way to.... I need a challence and actitude in a girl.. and that's why Im sigle... Why are we so complexxxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glowgirl Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 tried to date a few really nice guy....but the first one was so far up my ass that I couldn't take it anymore, there was NO challenge.So I blew him off!The I dated a really nice guy from Connecticut and later on i found out he had mental problems.......I found a great guy that really like me and the guy was so boring that I couldn't stand him anymore.SO I have a bad boy that gives me a bit of a challenge and put the ring on the finger too.Wedding bells next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookie23 Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 Nice guys finish last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highmay Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 Originally posted by somebitch i dont know any "nice guys". you know...if you think about it...this statement is so damn true...damn kara....i soooo want you right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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