cookiegirl Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 ^ yeah from Loveline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookiegirl Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 Wolf Blitzer's "report" on this, if yer interested. . .yeah Dr. Drew, keeping kids away from clubs and raves will end all substance abuse problems, sheesh BLITZER: Earlier we asked -- Mixing Ecstasy with Viagra can cause what unintended side effect? The answer, all of the above. The illegal combination could land you in jail with a bad headache and anatomical damage.Drug abuse specialists in the United States are very concerned about a growing trend, a combination of Viagra and Ecstasy and they're calling it Sextasy. That concern is outlined in an article that appeared in "USA Today." While users say the combination fuels all- night dancing and marathon sex, doctors warn it can cause heart problems and anatomical damage for men. With us now from Los Angeles to talk about this is Dr. Drew Pinsky. He's the co-host of "Loveline," a very popular advice program on the radio.Dr. Drew, thanks for joining us. And I just want to point out, we spoke to officials of the DEA, the Drug Enforcement Agency, earlier today and they said that there are alarming numbers coming up, especially among gay men and also among those who go to the so-called clubs where rave music is going on. How serious of a problem is this right now?DR. DREW PINSKY, CO-HOST, "LOVELINE": Well, it's serious in that these are dangerous combinations and this is just yet another incarnation of the club drug phenomenon. People are out there looking for bigger highs, more arousing kinds of experiences and they're getting now into substances that can cause, as in the case of the Viagra stimulant combination, priapism and permanent erectile dysfunction. Ecstasy, by itself, now is well known to be a neurotoxin and cause permanent brain damage, mood disturbances, panic attacks. And yet, young people still don't seem to pay any attention to this. They're looking more for the arousing experience. They get caught into this cycle of needing arousal in order to fell OK.They're taught from a young age -- teenagers, today, are taught that if they go to raves and go these extreme activities and maybe take drugs, they'll find happiness, they'll find great fun experiences. And indeed, they do, but they tend to get caught in a cycle where they become independent on this, in order to feel OK. In order to manage the effect, they get involved in drugs that are neurotoxic. And now, they need these things to feel OK. And you have a very, very destructive cycle they get into.BLITZER: So how addictive is it, this combination of Ecstasy and Viagra?PINSKY: You know the addiction is not the issue with this combination. This is much more a combination of abuse. MDMA, Ecstasy, does have an addictive potential, but it's relatively uncommon. Adding Viagra does not add a further addictive potential.Abuse is a much wider and much more substantial problem in terms of the number of people it effects. Addiction affects a subset of the population and no doubt, addicts are getting into this. But it's not creating the kind of preoccupation that addiction -- that defines addiction.BLITZER: What do you say to the young people who may be watching, may be thinking about doing this or are doing this or their parents or grandparents who may be watching and are alarmed at this prospect?PINSKY: Yes, it's really a very difficult thing to answer. As a parent, the idea is to survey and be aware of what they're into and monitor their behavior. Maybe you shouldn't be letting your kids go to raves and clubs if this is where they like to go. Maybe you should be discussing with them what it is -- what they do there, why they go there. If someone is aware that they have a young person who is involved with these sorts of substances, I think it's very important that they get a medical evaluation and be referred immediately. This is not a -- it's not something that should be just sort of let go. It is a serious, serious issue. BLITZER: And if you do have a loved one who may be getting involved in this dangerous combination, are there any outward symptoms that you see, behavioral patterns that they're engaged in that could be a signal to those who love these young kids and want to make sure they're safe?PINSKY: Again, it's more the Ecstasy that causes these sorts of problems. The typical symptom we see with Ecstasy is someone who is very gregarious and outgoing, all of sudden, doesn't want to go to parties any more, starts isolating, then, starts complaining about panic and anxiety, becomes agoraphobic and then, profoundly depressed. If you see that combination in someone and they're someone who enjoys going to clubs and socializing a lot, watch out for the possibility of Ecstasy.Viagra has now been thrown in there as an added issue that might add more toxicity and more problems for men particularly. We don't know the long-term consequences. That's the fact now.BLITZER: Is there a potential, Dr. Drew, for this to be the next drug epidemic in the U.S. right now?PINSKY: Sextasy itself?BLITZER: Yes.PINSKY: No, I don't think so. Again, it's not a drug of addiction. It's not causing preoccupation and persistent use in the adverse consequence. It is just yet another incarnation.Listen, at clubs, people are combining all sorts of chemicals, ketamine and heroine and LSD and speed. Kids are looking for -- they're alchemists. They're looking for this great combination, the best high. They're stuck. They need this in order to feel OK and they're stuck in the cycle of pursuit. This is just yet another incarnation of trying to find the ultimate experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malanee Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 ***warning****If you are outgoing and like to go to clubs YOU TOO could be at risk for sextacy use!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merkie Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 Originally posted by malanee ***warning****If you are outgoing and like to go to clubs YOU TOO could be at risk for sextacy use!!!! At least it won't become an "addiction!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyfreshdc Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 Originally posted by cookiegirl Listen, at clubs, people are combining all sorts of chemicals, ketamine and heroine and LSD and speed. Kids are looking for -- they're alchemists. They're looking for this great combination, the best high. They're stuck. They need this in order to feel OK and they're stuck in the cycle of pursuit. This is just yet another incarnation of trying to find the ultimate experience. i feel like such a fiend on the other hand i think i may have found the perfect combination:steve porter + dave seaman + centrofly 10/19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicman Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 Originally posted by funkyfreshdc i feel like such a fiend on the other hand i think i may have found the perfect combination:steve porter + dave seaman + centrofly 10/19 sander is also there at Arc the same night.10.24---> parks and wilson10.25---> sasha10.26---> danny howellsi'll be there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyfreshdc Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 i saw sander at arc in august...i've still never seen seaman live and somehow i missed porter when he was at buzz in may.hmm is centrofly 21+ on saturdays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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