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Originally posted by junior0320

ANYONE INTO THIS???? THINKING OF NEW WAYS TO MAKE SEX BETTER, HEARD IT MAKES YOUR ORGASM SOOOOO MUCH BETTER IF DONE CORRECTLY OF COURSE. ANY TIPS, COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, LINKS TO GET INFO ON WOULD BE GREAT.... :eek:

Try it, I suggest using piano wire, Moron.

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I have never tried but sometimes I wrap my hands around my partners neck and give a lil squeeze, nothing to the point of where she can't breathe. :laugh:

I heard the same thing, I think if you hold you breath while you orgasim its supposed to increase it some-how ( women only I think ).

Some chicks dig the esfixiation, they pass out while cumming then come to again... It all depends on what your into and if its your bag. :idea:

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i do it, its fun. she sits on top and chokes me while fucking me. its fun but there are alot of other better things to do. dont listen to logikandreason, i dont know why all these virginal prudes are around but theres alot of people on the sex board who are closed minded about sex. guess they just wanna be down with the LD

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Originally posted by t0nythelover

i do it, its fun. she sits on top and chokes me while fucking me. its fun but there are alot of other better things to do. dont listen to logikandreason, i dont know why all these virginal prudes are around but theres alot of people on the sex board who are closed minded about sex. guess they just wanna be down with the LD

have her squeez a lil harder next time, itll do the gene pool a favor

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Originally posted by LogiKandReasoN

have her squeez a lil harder next time, itll do the gene pool a favor

actually your mothers hands are too small to fit all around my neck, thats why she cant do it harder.

stay off the board if other peoples sexual practices bother you. fucking prude noobs. your probably vistanzis younger brother.

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Putting all *close-mindedness* and *prudishness* aside...

:rolleyes:

I don't know how intense strangulation you're talking about... a little bit is fine and safe, but if you're talking about taking it to the point where either one of you is unable to breathe... all I can say is please be really careful... the lack of oxygen can cause a heart attack... this isn't child's play we're talking about...

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Originally posted by t0nythelover

so whippets are legal?

autoeroticasphyxiation-simply put, not for amateurs.

It's not legal to dispence in the method mentioned but yes, they are technically legal. Youd usually have to go to some kind of restaurant supply place and pick up a box of 20. Cool thing about it, you can buy the cracker in the same store. Im not sure if youd need a business license though.

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i read somewhere... i think like a dear abby type thing... and the woman asked is she could tell her why she cant orgasm unless her partner strangles her... the reply was... it cuts circulation to the brain... which leaves all the feeling down below or some bullshit like that...and that she needs to stop doing that because its not healthy and it can be really harmful.... so if i were u, i wouldnt think of it as being closeminded about sex... its all about being safe.

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Originally posted by linabina

i read somewhere... i think like a dear abby type thing... and the woman asked is she could tell her why she cant orgasm unless her partner strangles her... the reply was... it cuts circulation to the brain... which leaves all the feeling down below or some bullshit like that...and that she needs to stop doing that because its not healthy and it can be really harmful.... so if i were u, i wouldnt think of it as being closeminded about sex... its all about being safe.

well abbys friend might not have been doing it properly. anal sex is "unhealthy" too but its still fun.

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sorry about this long ass post ...but think about it....strangling yourself for better sex??? you must not be doing something good enough if you need this in your routine....

Deadly Sex Thrills

by Matt Crowley

Editor's Note: This article is adapted from the 1989 Main Catalog of Loompanics Unlimited of Port Townsend, Washington, pp. 166-70. Although every effort has been made to contact Loompanics Unlimited for permission to republish, no reply has yet been received. We justify unauthorised republication on the grounds of public interest. The sad death earlier this year of Stephen Milligan MP - who it may be recalled was found accidentally strangled on his kitchen table dressed in female underwear - has raised considerable interest in what exactly he was trying to do.

It is our policy so far as possible to conform to the laws of Great Britain; and so I will try to forestall a prosecution under the Obscene Publications Act 1959 by declaring that this article is republished strictly for informational purposes. Readers are not encouraged to attempt any of the acts described below.

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Though the 1980s may have been the twilight of the sexual revolution, one sex practice that has yet to see the light of day is Autoerotic Asphyxia (hereafter referred to as AA). While homosexuality, bisexuality, paedophilia, sado-masochism, incest and a host of other practices have become household conversation topics, AA has been confined to the back pages of esoteric forensic science journals.

What is AA? Although it may have some variations, it is basically the act of hanging oneself in order to cut off oxygen and blood flow to the brain while masturbating. The idea seems to be that the hypoxia (lack of oxygen) and ischaemia (lack of blood flow) can contribute to the intensity of orgasm.

Almost always, people learn about AA after someone has died from it.

It is undoubtedly the most dangerous of all sex practices. Approximately 500 to 1000 people die from it each year in the United States. It has claimed the lives of cartoonist Vaughn Bode and actor Albert Dekker. Years ago, medical examiners often made the mistaken conclusion that these deaths were suicidal hangings. However, several factors differentiate an AA hanging from a suicidal hanging:

1. The feet are often touching the ground. This enables the practitioner to vary the pressure that the ligature is applying to the neck by lifting his body up or down from the floor.

2. The rope or ligature is often tied in a highly complex manner. This is done to provide an "escape mechanism" to manipulate the pressure on the neck with arms, legs, or torso.

3. The victim will often have padding around the neck to prevent tell-tale bruises and abrasions.

4. Pornography is present.

5. The victim had no known motive to commit suicide.

In some cases the family of the victim may modify the scene in order to eliminate the stigma of a sex-related death. This obviously creates considerable problems for the investigator trying to determine exactly what happened.

To compound this problem is the question of insurance settlements. If the victim had a life insurance policy covering accidental death, the family of the deceased will argue that the death was accidental. The insurance company will argue that the victim knowingly engaged in a life threatening behaviour, and thus the death was not wholly accidental. The courts are still debating this question.

If AA practitioners create elaborate escape mechanisms for themselves, then why do they die? The reason lies in the physiology of the heart and the nerves that regulate it. The body has feedback mechanisms for controlling blood pressure. At several points in the vascular system there exist structures called baroreceptors. Baroreceptors sense changes in blood pressure and produce nervous impulses which respond to those changes. When pressures on the baroreceptors are too low, impulses are fired to the heart and brain that lead to an increase in heart rate and force of contraction. This occurs, for example, when one stands up suddenly from a horizontal position. Gravity draws blood down from the brain and pressure drops. The baroreceptors sense the lowered pressure and fire, raising blood pressure, increasing force of contraction, and returning blood to the brain. One of the areas of the body with the highest concentration of baroreceptors is the neck. Thus, when pressure is applied to the baroreceptors (as in hanging) the opposite of the above-mentioned process occurs. Powerful impulses are sent to the brain and slow the heart, decrease force of contraction, and lower blood pressure. This phenomenon is called carotid sinus reflex. As little as seven pounds of pressure can cause this to occur.

If a person is engaged in AA and is already cutting off oxygen and blood flow to the brain, the additional slowing of the heart can cause rapid unconsciousness. So rapid, in fact, that the victim may not have a chance to release himself from the ligature. Death soon follows.

Who practices AA? Generally young, white males of average or above-average intelligence. Often they are socially withdrawn and may dabble in sado-masochism or bondage. AA in females is so rare that entire articles in forensic journals are devoted to single case histories.

A typical case history is that of Clarey Faye, reported in the March, 1985 edition of Vanity Fair. As Clarey moved into adolescence, he became introverted. "He was still going to therapists off and on, but no one could alleviate his black moods. He was playing less Bach on his cello and more hard rock on his guitar." He kept a journal, composed of a secret language consisting of Arabic, Sanskrit, and Greek characters. Repeatedly written on a page was the single word "phosphene." This very possibly refers to the reports of AA practitioners, describing "seeing stars." Clarey was 16 years old when he was found dead by his mother, hanging nude by his belt from a bar in his bathroom. A mirror was positioned so that he could view himself (an unusually common theme in AA deaths).

Not all AA practitioners use a neck ligature to produce hypoxia and ischaemia. There are primarily two other means. These are suffocation and chest compression. Two cases from forensic literature illustrate the former method. In the first case, a man used semi-drowning ("aqua-eroticism") in a lake to provide an opportunity for masturbation. In the second case, a Yale graduate constructed an airtight vinyl bag that he zippered himself into. He also bound his hands behind his back with a short length of chain. His penis was wrapped with a Saran-Wrap rubber-band condom. Both men died.

In chest compression, the movement of the ribcage is restricted or the diaphragm movement is cut off. Cases of death resulting from asphyxia in a garbage can, and suspension by a rope around the abdomen have been reported. In the first case, the victim intended to use a roll of chicken wire as an escape mechanism. The mechanism failed and the man died. In the second case, a man winched himself up off the ground by a rope wrapped around his abdomen. He was unable to release the winch which led to his death. A high blood alcohol content probably contributed to his inability to release the winch. It was not known whether Faecal matter found at the scene was part of an erotic fantasy or due to extreme intestinal pressure.

Various other asphyxial scenarios come to mind (my mind) that have yet to appear in forensic literature. Consider that perennial child-killer the abandoned refrigerator. It is dark, airtight, and private. Perfect for furtive AA. Do you have sexual fantasies about Mama Cass Elliot? How about ham sandwich asphyxia while masturbating? Do you get off on the music of John Bonham or Jimi Hendrix? How about AA with inspired vomitus? Off-the-deep-end conspiracy types will no doubt suggest that these deaths were truly auto-erotic asphyxial in nature and were simply "covered up."

Perhaps the most bizarre case of a (quasi) AA death in the literature is that of J.C. Rupp's classic "Love Bug." An airline pilot drove his Volkswagen Bug to a secluded, roughly circular, flat clearing. He stripped naked and attached around his torso a chain harness which was attached to the Bug's rear bumper by a ten-foot length of chain. He tied his belt to the steering wheel and strapped it down so that the wheel was completely counter-clockwise. He started the engine and let the Bug pull him in overlapping circles. At some point, he tired of this and approached the car presumably to turn off the engine. At this point a serious "pilot error" occurred. The chain began to wind around the left rear axle and he was pulled into the left wheel area and asphyxiated by extreme compression against the car.

Asphyxial games for the sake of alteration of consciousness without the addition of sexuality are not at all uncommon. Researcher Harvey Resnick refers to anthropological studies of various native American and South American tribes who play such games, variously entitled "smoke out," "red out," and "hang up." Indeed, after I started studying AA, I began asking people I knew if they could recall playing asphyxial games as children. Many did, and were surprised that they could remember doing such things. Perhaps this is an example of "repressions" whereby "anti-social" behaviours of children are forgotten, only to return with prompting. Very often, people not only recall asphyxial games, but remember the exact sequence and number of actions they performed. These include hugging by another, blowing on a finger in the mouth to prevent exhalation, rising quickly from a squatting position, pressing on the neck, and many others.

There is an unusual subset of AA fatalities that prove very difficult for the researcher to classify. These are cases of erotic suicide. In these the victim was known to have practised AA, but also evidenced a suicidal intent.

In the early 1970s two researchers, Litman and Swearingen, studied the sex practices of a group of 9 S&M-AA practitioners. Though none died while the study was in effect, all exhibited strong "death wish" orientation, and often strong depression. All had complex, esoteric fantasies, as in number 7's case. He wanted to be the "leader of an imperilled group" who "eroticised fear, nooses, hangings" and needed danger for orgasm. The deaths of any of these individuals would be very difficult to classify in either pigeon hole of "suicide" or "accidents" because all seemed intentionally to have lived on that border.

The most extreme case presented by the authors was case "A," a 50 year old actor who died of extremely eroticised AA. There was a ball in his mouth, scarf over his eyes, hand cuffs on both wrists, and the words "suck" and "fuck" written on the body. A bizarre suicide note was left of which this is only a part "Please tender me when you cut me down. My panty girdles are fastened to my brassieres with safety pins. There are no hooks on the garter belts so you will have to pull them off." And finally "In a frenzy of passion I kick the chair over and my body is spasming at the end of the chain noose. I come wildly, madly. My eyes bulge and I try and reach the keys, knowing I have finally found the courage to end a horrible nightmare life dangerously." End of note.

Beside the obvious reason that is feels good, why do people engage in AA? various long winded psychoanalytic explanations have been proposed, all of which rely on explanations which are as controversial as the whole body of psychoanalysis itself. A very clever hypothesis has been proposed by Resnick; it asserts that while breast-feeding, a baby may experience partial asphyxia. Further, certain gastric and urethral reflexes may, in males, produce erections. Thus a very early association between the pleasure involved with feeding, erection, and asphyxia is formed. Later, when breast-feeding stops, the association between asphyxia and erections may persist. Resnick refers to the breast-feeding mother as the "smother mother."

When individuals practice AA, Do they always have to die? Is there "safe sex" AA? Wearing condoms and soaking the ligature in bleach just won't do. An article from the gay men's magazine Drummer suggests that there is safe AA. Author Robert Bahr interviewed "Ed," who rigged up a gaff in his apartment designed specifically to prevent accidental death. Around a wire frame is wrapped a plastic bag. on the floor beneath the contraption is a mattress. One stands on the mattress and puts his face into the frame. While masturbating, all inhaled and exhaled air collects in the bag and is quickly depleted of oxygen. The wire frame prevents the bag from being inhaled when breathing becomes rapid, near orgasm. After orgasm, or if the participant passes out, the mattress is underneath to cushion a fall. One cannot die in such an arrangement, because one cannot get caught in the bag, and unconsciousness only removes one from the gaff. This practice does not produce ischaemia, however, which may limit its euphoric potential for the true thrill-seeking AA connoisseur.

As exhortations for abstinence nave never prevented venereal disease, it is not likely that AA deaths will go away just by saying "Don't do it." Only when practitioners understand why it is so dangerous and are offered safer alternatives will autoerotic asphyxia deaths decrease.

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Originally posted by junior0320

ANYONE INTO THIS???? THINKING OF NEW WAYS TO MAKE SEX BETTER, HEARD IT MAKES YOUR ORGASM SOOOOO MUCH BETTER IF DONE CORRECTLY OF COURSE. ANY TIPS, COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, LINKS TO GET INFO ON WOULD BE GREAT.... :eek:

try typing with out caps... makes a lot of ladies in here hornier than a toad...

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Originally posted by t0nythelover

well abbys friend might not have been doing it properly. anal sex is "unhealthy" too but its still fun.

Having a dick up your ass can't kill you upon orgasm. It has nothing to do with "doing it properly," even if there's someone there with you to let go of your neck and allow you to breathe after you cum, the orgasm combined w/no oxygen to the brain can cause a heart attack. Simple as that.

If it's something you want to do, that's your business, just be aware of the risks you're taking beforehand.

PS, WTF is a noob???

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Originally posted by tastyt

Having a dick up your ass can't kill you upon orgasm. It has nothing to do with "doing it properly," even if there's someone there with you to let go of your neck and allow you to breathe after you cum, the orgasm combined w/no oxygen to the brain can cause a heart attack. Simple as that.

If it's something you want to do, that's your business, just be aware of the risks you're taking beforehand.

PS, WTF is a noob???

noob = newbie

Also, do keep in mind that your logic is falling on the ears of a 19 year old.

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Ok, here goes. I hold my breath when I orgasm. I have multiples.. leading back to the question of how many in one night, I get more than I deserve, that's for sure. Anyway, back to this topic,I hold my breath to get to a certain level of um... light-headedness, I guess. Now, my man is really great in bed, but sometimes I like that feeling of being overwhelmed, helpless, forced to do anything he wants. That's when the whole strangulation thing turns me on. Nothing I would ever put a plastic bag over my head for, but if he puts his hand around my throat, either face up or down, WOW. It makes me crazy....Hmmmmmm

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Originally posted by pi

Ok, here goes. I hold my breath when I orgasm. I have multiples.. leading back to the question of how many in one night, I get more than I deserve, that's for sure. Anyway, back to this topic,I hold my breath to get to a certain level of um... light-headedness, I guess. Now, my man is really great in bed, but sometimes I like that feeling of being overwhelmed, helpless, forced to do anything he wants. That's when the whole strangulation thing turns me on. Nothing I would ever put a plastic bag over my head for, but if he puts his hand around my throat, either face up or down, WOW. It makes me crazy....Hmmmmmm

nice! helllloo boner

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