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MOSCOW — Russia rejected the new U.S. draft resolution on Iraq Tuesday, dealing a sharp blow to American efforts to gain U.N. backing for the automatic use of force if weapons inspectors are thwarted by Baghdad.

Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov's statement said the U.S. document failed to meet Russian criteria.

His comments to Russian reporters were the Kremlin's first official reaction to the U.S. proposal presented on Monday to the other four permanent members of the Security Council.

"The American draft resolution...does not answer the criteria which the Russian side laid out earlier and which it confirms today," Ivanov was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency.

Ivanov made the statement several hours after meeting with Hans Blix, the chief U.N. weapons inspector.

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Negroponte gave the complete U.S. draft to envoys of the four other permanent council members — France, Russia, China and Britain.

Blix, meanwhile, said he thought war with Iraq could be avoided if Baghdad proves it does not have weapons of mass destruction. France and China remained guarded about using force against Hussein.

"They may have evidence, I am not brushing it aside, but in our archive there is no clear-cut evidence. There are many questions, however, that we would like to have answered by them (the Iraqis) and there are also many places we would like to visit," Blix said.

Ivanov made his comments after separate meetings with State Department Undersecretary John Bolton as well as with Blix.

Russia, which holds veto power in the Security Council, has opposed unilateral military action against Iraq. It criticized an earlier version of the draft that would have envisaged the use of force if Baghdad failed to comply with U.N. weapons inspectors.

White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said the United States would continue to push for one resolution.

"It's a fact that they don't have forever. The United Nations is entering the final stages on this and we'd like to see a resolution reached," he said. "Our position remains the same — one resolution is appropriate."

China "will take seriously" any measure supporting U.N. weapons inspections and leading to a peaceful settlement of the standoff between Iraq and the United States, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said at a regularly scheduled briefing.

However, he added: "We have always held that the U.N. weapons inspectors should return to Iraq as soon as possible and the Security Council should consider its next move according to the result of the inspection."

French President Jacques Chirac did not react directly to the draft but suggested the French were not close to supporting it.

"We have our own appreciation of things, and we tell (the United States) that," Chirac said, even if "we don't say it in an aggressive way." He spoke to reporters after a meeting with Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen whose country holds the rotating European Union presidency.

Earlier, before seeing the draft, French U.N. Ambassador Jean-David Levitte said he did not think an agreement was close.

Washington's staunchest ally on the council, Britain, voiced its support. Prime Minister Tony Blair said he hoped the U.S. draft would be approved.

At the same time, Ivanov said Friday that the Security Council could consider authorizing the use of force against Iraq if the inspectors report "problems" in searching for weapons of mass destruction.

Meanwhile, Blix, who said he thought a team of weapons inspectors could be in Iraq within two weeks, issued his assessment as U.N. Security Council members studied the revised U.S. draft of a resolution on Iraq.

"I think that if Iraq helps create confidence that there are no weapons of mass destruction, then I think there will be no war," Blix said.

Blix said he would like to see the inspectors go to Iraq as soon as possible, but that it was best for them to wait for the expected U.N. Security Council resolution rather than receive new instructions after they had started work.

He said it was important for the inspectors to travel to Iraq to provide a clearer picture of the state of its weapons programs. Some countries, including the United States and Great Britain, have said that Iraq has made strides in developing weapons of mass destruction that pose a grave threat to mankind.

Also Tuesday, Turkey warned Iraq to comply with U.N. resolutions to avoid possible military action, and in an apparent message to Washington, said any action ought to have U.N. approval.

At the end of a four-hour meeting, Turkey's National Security Council — made up of the country's military and civilian leaders — issued a statement saying that "Iraq should behave responsibly to avoid the necessity of military intervention."

Turkey, a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, has repeatedly spoken out against any military campaign in Iraq, fearing it could destabilize the region and harm the Turkish economy, which is suffering from its worst recession in decades.

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Originally posted by dnice35

Poor Rusia.... Like we are gonna listen to anything they have to say....

Hehe...looks like most of the countries in this world other than Britain(the US puppet) and ISrael (who'd be more than happy to see Saddam go) are against a US invasion.

Like I said before, Bush is rapidly leading this country toward its end.

Just a quick question - how many times has the US govt pushed and helped instal a democratic govt in a country, and how many times has it supported and helped instal dictators?

Oooh- while we're at it - how many times has the govt helped instigate a coup of democratically elected leaders?

Also want you to check out this AWESOME school the US military has...its called the "School of the Americas"...rather it WAS called that, not its called "Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation."

http://www.ciponline.org/facts/soa.htm

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I wouldn't blame the Russians. Kudos to them! :aright:

Say, was it Hitler who invaded Russia for the oil and got their asses kicked?

Hmmmm. Has it ever occured to you that Bush is doing the same thing Hitler did?

Hitler moved to Washington D.C. and re-named himself George W. Bush.

And we can do without ignorance tword the Muslim peoples and the Ignorance of uneducated American people. It's time you do your research and I know it's very possible for you to do.

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yea normal, bush is hitler, he just changed the name :rolleyes:

idiot

where were you hatched anyway? ignorance to the muslim people? yea, ok einstein.

russia rejected it because iraq owes them around 8 billion in unpaid military bills. if US takes over, russians aint never gonna see their green back. well no shit they arent happy with our planned invasion. russian oil conglomrates rake billions off iraqi oil fields, and now they are in danger of having american / british competition. bad for business you see.

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Originally posted by tribal

yea normal, bush is hitler, he just changed the name :rolleyes:

idiot

where were you hatched anyway? ignorance to the muslim people? yea, ok einstein.

russia rejected it because iraq owes them around 8 billion in unpaid military bills. if US takes over, russians aint never gonna see their green back. well no shit they arent happy with our planned invasion. russian oil conglomrates rake billions off iraqi oil fields, and now they are in danger of having american / british competition. bad for business you see.

:aright:

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Originally posted by normalnoises

I wouldn't blame the Russians. Kudos to them! :aright:

Say, was it Hitler who invaded Russia for the oil and got their asses kicked?

Hmmmm. Has it ever occured to you that Bush is doing the same thing Hitler did?

Hitler moved to Washington D.C. and re-named himself George W. Bush.

And we can do without ignorance tword the Muslim peoples and the Ignorance of uneducated American people. It's time you do your research and I know it's very possible for you to do.

Just when I tought people couldnt get any stupider, You go ahead and take stupidity to another level....

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OK, Einsteins...agreed, Russia has a stake ($$) in this. But tell....why is that France, Germany and almost every other nation on this planet is against a war except for Britain and Israel (of course, what do you expect)??

Its also funny how Nobel Peace laurettes also oppose any attack on Iraq!

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Originally posted by raver_mania

OK, Einsteins...agreed, Russia has a stake ($$) in this. But tell....why is that France, Germany and almost every other nation on this planet is against a war except for Britain and Israel (of course, what do you expect)??

Its also funny how Nobel Peace laurettes also oppose any attack on Iraq!

French are pussies

Russia - well we all know why they oppose a US attack

Dont forget Australia is also in favor of an attack....

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Originally posted by dnice35

French are pussies

Russia - well we all know why they oppose a US attack

Dont forget Australia is also in favor of an attack....

yeah, backed by UN resolutions.

Its funny though - in both countries there's intense internal opposition to an attack.

There you have it - you can count on hand the number of countries for war, and list in a long column the countries against war!

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Originally posted by raver_mania

yeah, backed by UN resolutions.

Its funny though - in both countries there's intense internal opposition to an attack.

There you have it - you can count on hand the number of countries for war, and list in a long column the countries against war!

So cause other countries dont want to go to war we shouldnt? Fuck that.

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Originally posted by tribal

yea normal, bush is hitler, he just changed the name :rolleyes:

idiot

where were you hatched anyway? ignorance to the muslim people? yea, ok einstein.

russia rejected it because iraq owes them around 8 billion in unpaid military bills. if US takes over, russians aint never gonna see their green back. well no shit they arent happy with our planned invasion. russian oil conglomrates rake billions off iraqi oil fields, and now they are in danger of having american / british competition. bad for business you see.

Where've you been? Russia recently signed a 10 year trade agreement with the Iraqis.

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Originally posted by dnice35

So cause other countries dont want to go to war we shouldnt? Fuck that.

They're not going to make the same mistake Bu (swastika)h is about to make. NO COUNTRY SHOULD EVER GO TO WAR?

And what makes Bush think that war will solve anything?

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