normalnoises Posted November 29 Report Share Posted November 29 So it's ok for us soldiers to run over little girls???Fucking babykillers!!http://boston.com/dailyglobe2/332/nation/Acquitted_US_soldiers_leave+.shtmlAcquitted US soldiers leave South Koreans protest ruling in girls' deathsBy Sang-Hun Choe, Associated Press, 11/28/2002 SEOUL - Two US Army soldiers left South Korea yesterday after being acquitted in a fatal traffic accident that outraged South Koreans and prompted an apology from President Bush. Sergeant Mark Walker of the 2d Infantry Division will move on to a new assignment, while Sergeant Fernando Nino is leaving the Army, deciding not to reenlist, said Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan, a US military spokesman. A military court acquitted the pair of negligent homicide in the deaths of two girls during a training mission on June 13. Protesters have called the trial a whitewash, and on Tuesday dozens of activists broke into the US military base Camp Red Cloud, north of Seoul, to protest. The activists were stopped by South Korean police, and there were no clashes with American soldiers. At a news conference, US Ambassador Thomas Hubbard passed along an apology from Bush. He said the president asked him to express ''his sadness and regret over this tragic incident and to reiterate the United States' commitment to work closely with the Republic of Korea to help prevent such accidents from occurring in the future.'' South Korea's political parties welcomed Bush's apology, but called for the revision of a joint military accord to help ease anti-US sentiments. But some people said Bush's apology was not enough to calm anger in South Korea, which hosts 37,000 US soldiers. ''Bush must apologize personally and publicly, not through his ambassador,'' 300 activists chanted in a rally yesterday near the main US military base in central Seoul. ''Let's bring the murderous US soldiers to our court!'' In statements released yesterday, the two soldiers apologized to the families of the two girls, Shim Mi Son and Shin Hyo Sun. The US government gave a total of $323,000 in compensation to the victims' families. The soldiers' acquittals led to a renewal of calls by South Koreans for the revision of the joint military accord so that South Korea has more jurisdiction in cases involving US soldiers. Currently, the US military has jurisdictional rights over American soldiers accused of crimes while on duty, though it can allow South Korea to try them on a case-by-case basis. This story ran on page A68 of the Boston Globe on 11/28/2002. © Copyright 2002 Globe Newspaper Company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0nythelover Posted November 29 Report Share Posted November 29 the us seems to be everything possible to make itself look like a giant asshole around the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 motherfoecurs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normalnoises Posted November 30 Author Report Share Posted November 30 Today's Army wants to kill your children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycmuzik Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 All Arabs are terrorists....All NYC cops are racists....yada yada yada....Its tragic that it happened and its fucked that they didnt get punished but I wouldnt throw all members of the armed forces into the same group as those 2.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgym Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 Originally posted by nycmuzik2000 All Arabs are terrorists....All NYC cops are racists....yada yada yada....Its tragic that it happened and its fucked that they didnt get punished but I wouldnt throw all members of the armed forces into the same group as those 2.... Exactly. Don't blame the entire garden for a couple of bad seeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normalnoises Posted December 2 Author Report Share Posted December 2 Verdicts feed anger in Seoul US presence decried after two soldiers acquitted in deathsBy Sang-Hun Choe, Associated Press, 12/1/2002 SEOUL - At least 3,000 students and activists marched with candles and burned an American flag yesterday to protest the acquittals of two US soldiers in a traffic accident that killed two Korean girls. ''Punish American GIs! Go away American GIs!'' the crowd chanted, occupying four lanes of an eight-lane boulevard a block away from the US Embassy in central Seoul. The demonstrators held candles in paper cups. Scuffles occurred when protesters insisted on marching on the embassy, which was blocked by thousands of riot police armed with helmets and plastic shields. Several protesters were bleeding from their faces, and several policemen were sprawled on the pavement or rushed to the hospital after being beaten and stomped on. The protesters burned an effigy of President Bush and an American flag placed on a scaffold. A brief scuffle erupted between the protesters and the riot police, but no serious injuries or arrests were reported. In separate military trials this month, Sergeant Fernando Nino and Sergeant Mark Walker were acquitted of negligent homicide charges in the deaths of two 13-year-old girls. Their armored vehicle was on a training mission when it struck and killed the girls June 13. The soldiers are in the 2nd Infantry Division. South Korean activists called the trials a sham. Newspaper editorials also criticized the acquittals. Smaller rallies and marches also took place yesterday in at least five provincial cities, the national news agency Yonhap said. At the US Navy base in Chinhae on the south coast, demonstrators wrote slogans in their own blood calling for US troops to withdraw from South Korea. They also tore open part of the US military installation's wire fence before police repelled them. Although most South Koreans tolerate or support the presence of US forces on South Korean soil as a deterrent to North Korea, there is a perception that the relationship favors the Americans. The US military has jurisdiction over its soldiers accused of crimes while on duty. There are 37,000 American soldiers based in South Korea. South Korean political parties have called for the revision of a US-South Korean military accord to grant South Korea more jurisdiction in cases involving US soldiers. This story ran on page A13 of the Boston Globe on 12/1/2002. © Copyright 2002 Globe Newspaper Company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 It’s a terrible thing…. But, maybe the So Koreans should focus on all that is good. In the next few years KIA will be the number one producer of automobiles in the world. Would anyone in So. Korea want to change places with their brothers in North Korea? NO. Case closed. Yea, a couple of soldiers made a mistake. But, what about all the Americans who gave their lives and still keep residence on the other side of the world to keep South Korea free? I love it how liberals cry over the deaths of a few innocents when thousands are held against their will and killed in North Korea and Vietnam yearly. Two solders fucked up and the entire US presence in Korea needs to be reevaluated! Please!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0nythelover Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Originally posted by guyman1966 It’s a terrible thing…. But, maybe the So Koreans should focus on all that is good. In the next few years KIA will be the number one producer of automobiles in the world. Would anyone in So. Korea want to change places with their brothers in North Korea? NO. Case closed. Yea, a couple of soldiers made a mistake. But, what about all the Americans who gave their lives and still keep residence on the other side of the world to keep South Korea free? I love it how liberals cry over the deaths of a few innocents when thousands are held against their will and killed in North Korea and Vietnam yearly. Two solders fucked up and the entire US presence in Korea needs to be reevaluated! Please!!! Yeah well I guess Americans shouldnt be to pissed off about 9/11 according to your logic since it was only 2 buildings that were destroyed. How can you say oh please??? Thats peoples lives that were loss due to an unnecessary u.s. mistake. The u.s. shouldnt even be in south korea. Oh and onother thing, it doesn't matter how many peole are held in north korea because they are 2 different countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Originally posted by t0nythelover Thats peoples lives that were loss due to an unnecessary u.s. mistake.1. Please explain to me, what a necessary US mistake would be? in other words, u called it "an unnecessary US mistake". arent mistakes done in error? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Originally posted by t0nythelover Yeah well I guess Americans shouldnt be to pissed off about 9/11 according to your logic since it was only 2 buildings that were destroyed. How can you say oh please??? Thats peoples lives that were loss due to an unnecessary u.s. mistake. The u.s. shouldnt even be in south korea. Oh and onother thing, it doesn't matter how many peole are held in north korea because they are 2 different countries. Are you comparing a traffic accident where two people died to 9-11? If so, it demonstrates poor taste and a lack of judgment! Please!!!!! Also, you missed my point on North Korea. If our troops were not in South Korea, there would be NO SOUTH KOREA. North Korea would have taken over and made one united Korea with no civil rights, freedoms or democracy. The South Koreans are so much better off today then they would be with no US assistance. Again, I hated to see these guys get off, but I think overall the benefits that So. Korean society enjoys today justifies the US presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 thats sad, at least the US hooked their family up... I mean $300,000+ is alot of money. yet I do not see a reason as to why president Bush has to appologize for, I mean it is a tragic thing and all, but he didnt kill those girls..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Originally posted by dnice35 yet I do not see a reason as to why president Bush has to appologize forb/c he is being a "Leader"....if it was up to Clinton or some Democrats, they would have stuck some cigars up their "putangs", had sex with them and THEN run them over with a military vehicle and get rid of the evidence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 b/c he is being a "Leader"....if it was up to Clinton or some Democrats, they would have stuck some cigars up their "putangs", had sex with them and THEN run them over with a military vehicle and get rid of the evidence... .... true, true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Originally posted by guyman1966 Are you comparing a traffic accident where two people died to 9-11? If so, it demonstrates poor taste and a lack of judgment! Please!!!!! Also, you missed my point on North Korea. If our troops were not in South Korea, there would be NO SOUTH KOREA. North Korea would have taken over and made one united Korea with no civil rights, freedoms or democracy. The South Koreans are so much better off today then they would be with no US assistance. Again, I hated to see these guys get off, but I think overall the benefits that So. Korean society enjoys today justifies the US presence. and why is the separation of the two koreas necessarily a good thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Originally posted by sassa and why is the separation of the two koreas necessarily a good thing? you are right , maybe they are better off comunist.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Originally posted by dnice35 you are right , maybe they are better off comunist.... ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Originally posted by dnice35 you are right , maybe they are better off comunist.... i didn't mean that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 2 Report Share Posted December 2 Originally posted by sassa and why is the separation of the two koreas necessarily a good thing? I’m glad you asked that question. If you believe that a democratic society where people elect their officials and that human rights are valued, then that should be all the information you need to see why it is important to protect South Korea. Second, if you research the quality of life in North Korea, you will find that it is not equal to So. Korea. Yes, in a perfect world a unified Korea is better than a divided one. But, would you like to see that at the expense of free society? If you lived in North Korea and expressed the opposition to the government like you do on this message board, you would disappear and never be heard from again.Remember, all we are talking about here is a traffic accident. Its not like our military blew up a school. Two US assholes made a huge mistake. If you look at all the progress South Korea has made in industry, education, politics and healthcare, you will see how much they have benefited from their association with the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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