sassa Posted December 4 Report Share Posted December 4 Israel accused of Hebron land grab Palestinian homes to be demolished on link road Chris McGreal in Hebron Tuesday December 3, 2002The Guardian The Israeli army yesterday pasted notices ordering property seizures and house demolitions the length of a street in Hebron that Ariel Sharon wants to use to link two belligerent Jewish settlements.The order horrified but did not surprise the residents of Al-Haram street after the prime minister's call three weeks ago for what Palestinians say amounts to ethnic cleansing and a land grab. But they still do not know whether their homes are to be destroyed or handed over to settlers. Al-Haram's narrow, crooked route, lined with buildings reminiscent of biblical times, is the scene of a spewing of hate every week as hardline Jewish settlers make their way to prayer at one of the most controversial religious sites on the West Bank. Its walls bear testimony to Jewish claims on the street with Stars of David and exhortations to kill all Arabs sprayed on Palestinian property. For years, Mr Sharon has argued for Al-Haram street to be seized and turned into a security corridor linking Kiryat Arba settlement's 6,000 residents with a smaller Jewish enclave of just 400 settlers in the heart of Hebron. They live in the midst of - but generally separated from - 130,000 Palestinians. Mr Sharon's opportunity came three weeks ago when Islamic Jihad slaughtered 12 Israeli soldiers and security personnel escorting settlers on their way to pray at the Tomb of the Patriarchs. As the tanks rolled into Hebron, the prime minister told army commanders that Israel had to "take advantage of the opportunity" to drive Palestinians from Al-Haram street. Yesterday, the military took the first step with an order in the name of General Moshe Kaplinski, commander of the central region of the occupied territories. It lists 60 buildings and pieces of land the army will seize on Al-Haram street because of "military necessity". The order says an accompanying map marks in blue the buildings to be taken and the land to be confiscated in red - except that the map taped to every almost every building in the street is a black and white photocopy. The military order comes in three parts: Two pieces of paper list the seizure, the map shows what is to be taken and a fourth piece of paper shows each building numbered in large red figures, up to a total of 103 buildings. Yet it gives enough away to show that the army intends to take ownership of the full 700-metre length between the two Jewish settlements and the Tomb of the Patriarchs. All of this is justified by Gen Kaplinski's "belief that it is essential for military necessity, and due to the security situation" and because of the "need to prevent terrorist operations and protect citizens and [israeli] soldiers". The notice also gives "an order to destroy buildings for military purposes". It says compensation will be offered. About 15 buildings targeted for immediate demolition are abandoned or falling down. But about half the street is still occupied by 30 or so families, and the Palestinians living there believe the order effectively confiscates their property and they will be forced out later if not sooner. They question what military purpose is served by bulldozing empty buildings unless it is a prelude to the destruction of occupied properties to create a wide corridor between the two Jewish areas, in line with Mr Sharon's wishes - or the first step towards turning Al-Haram into a bridging Jewish settlement with new homes. Juma Jaber's flat opens on to Al-Haram street and falls within the markings on the map of properties for confiscation. "They haven't given us individual notice. They came to all the houses, asked our names, how many people live here, our identity numbers. Then they put up this order which is difficult to understand. From what I can see they are taking over the whole street," he said. "Even if we don't have to leave immediately, I think they want to give the street to the settlers, bring them in to live here. We'll be suffocated but that's the Israeli plan. They want to drive us out." Israel's tourism minister, Yitzhak Levy, has ordered his ministry to draw up plans for a "promenade" from Kiryat Arba to the Tomb of the Patriarchs, which are believed to include "road widening" that would include destruction of homes. The military is evidently embarrassed by the order. An Israeli army spokesman at first denied it existed. "It's a rumour. It's not true," he said. Presented with physical evidence, the spokesman said it may be a fraud. Asked why, if that is the case, soldiers patrolling the street had not removed copies attached to every wall - including a small group of officers who walked the length of Al-Haram yesterday, deep in discussion as they pointed out individual buildings - he promised to check on its authenticity. He later confirmed the order was issued by Gen Kaplinski but could not comment further. Mr Sharon argued for the two Jewish settlements to be joined by a corridor through Al-Haram as far back as 1996. He has also said that the number of Arabs in the Israeli-controlled heart of Hebron could be reduced from 20,000 to a tenth of that number. Among those facing expulsion is 91-year-old Radeb Jaber who has lived on the street his entire life. "I have lived under the Turks. I have lived under the British. I have lived under the Jordanians. These are the worst," he said. "They keep us under curfew. Every time they see us they curse us. Dog, bastard, they call us." In such circumstances, it is difficult to imagine the settlers living side by side with Palestinians on Al-Haram street. Mr Jaber's son Rahin, 65 agrees: "It's impossible to live with the settlers. It's like putting a poisonous snake on your chest. Either they kill us or we kill them. There's no in-between." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djxeno Posted December 4 Report Share Posted December 4 FUCK Ariel Sharon, FUCK Jerry Falwell and FUCK Pat Robertson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 4 Report Share Posted December 4 Originally posted by djxeno FUCK Ariel Sharon, FUCK Jerry Falwell and FUCK Pat Robertson. Wow. You really seem to have a total command of the situation over there. Maybe we should send you over instead of Jesse Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted December 5 Author Report Share Posted December 5 Originally posted by djxeno FUCK Ariel Sharon, FUCK Jerry Falwell and FUCK Pat Robertson. i hope they all get raped by big ugly bodybuilders in hell...they passed a law in israel saying that no non-jewish person could own any land in israel...i have family there from 150 years...that is bullshit to say they cannot own land where they have lived for generations...this is pure racism...and this is what no one hears about...we have id cards where on the bottom it states your nationality...you don't see that in the US do you..that's because the jews are practicing the same racism against arabs, bedouins, druze, muslims, circassians, armenians,and any non-jewish people living there. but nothing can happen and people have to shut up and live with it because you know why? israel has the US by its balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djxeno Posted December 5 Report Share Posted December 5 Originally posted by guyman1966 Wow. You really seem to have a total command of the situation over there. Maybe we should send you over instead of Jesse Jackson. LOL ur so funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djxeno Posted December 5 Report Share Posted December 5 Originally posted by sassa i hope they all get raped by big ugly bodybuilders in hell...they passed a law in israel saying that no non-jewish person could own any land in israel...i have family there from 150 years...that is bullshit to say they cannot own land where they have lived for generations...this is pure racism...and this is what no one hears about...we have id cards where on the bottom it states your nationality...you don't see that in the US do you..that's because the jews are practicing the same racism against arabs, bedouins, druze, muslims, circassians, armenians,and any non-jewish people living there. but nothing can happen and people have to shut up and live with it because you know why? israel has the US by its balls Sassa, I'm really sorry to hear that. What nationality are you? Israel is a pure racist country and it's a shame that most people don't realize this. Check out my other post about the UN Draft Resolution to stop racism. What a surprise, look at the two countries who are opposed, Israel and the U.S. :worry2: On a more happier note, EID MUBARAK -XeNo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycmuzik Posted December 5 Report Share Posted December 5 This is bullshit....As a matter of fact, everything on the face of this planet is bullshit.....I'm sick of hearing about supposed "allies" who support terror....I'm sick of people' land being taken away from them for no reason.....I'm sick of suicide bombers.....I'm sick of the French....Most of all I'm sick of religion....It to me is the biggest cause of death on the face of this planet....Millions of people killed because they call God by a diff. name....So fuck the rest of the world....They're all hypocrites.....Famine, disease, civil war.....If any of these are currently beseiging your country, then call the United States of America and ask for a handout....They will surely give it to you and best of all, no need to repay.....But thats not all....The great Americans will send over young men and women who will die to defend your life....But dont forget....If there ever comes a time when the US needs help because it is faced with a threat then say no...Call them the "Great Satan" or some catchy name along those lines.....This is what the rest of the world lives by....They dont care about us, so I dont care about them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 5 Report Share Posted December 5 Originally posted by sassa i hope they all get raped by big ugly bodybuilders in hell...they passed a law in israel saying that no non-jewish person could own any land in israel...i have family there from 150 years...that is bullshit to say they cannot own land where they have lived for generations...this is pure racism...and this is what no one hears about...we have id cards where on the bottom it states your nationality...you don't see that in the US do you..that's because the jews are practicing the same racism against arabs, bedouins, druze, muslims, circassians, armenians,and any non-jewish people living there. but nothing can happen and people have to shut up and live with it because you know why? israel has the US by its balls What you call racism, I call self preservation. You’re entire argument is flawed! You don’t know the historical facts. The facts are that every nationality and religion living inside of Israel’s official borders is thriving more than when any Arab entity has controlled the land. When the Arab’s controlled Jerusalem, Jews were not allowed to pray at the Wall! Also, Jewish holy sites were destroyed by Arabs. If you look around (and I’ve been there), the Jews ensure that the Arab holy sites (and ALL HOLY SITES) are protected. Also, Israel was created to be a JEWISH STATE. It’s in their constitution and charter. JUST LIKE MUSLAM NATIONS! That is why they distinguish themselves from their other citizens. And, the key words here are OTHER CITIZENS. Israel has Arab Israelis who vote, own land, and are protected every bit as much as Jews living there. Why don’t you look around the Middle East and see how non-Muslims are treated by Muslim nations like Saudi Arabia and such before you rush to judgment. In fact, the Arab Israelis are better off than the average Arab citizen in any Muslim country. You’ll find that the Palestinians who are Israeli citizens have more freedoms, more rights, have the highest education, and best medical caree living there. but nothing can happen and people have to shut up and live with it because you know why? israel has the US by its balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted December 5 Report Share Posted December 5 Mr Sharon's opportunity came three weeks ago when Islamic Jihad slaughtered 12 Israeli soldiers and security personnel escorting settlers on their way to pray at the Tomb of the Patriarchs. Those people evicted can thank the Islamic Jihad..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwater Posted December 5 Report Share Posted December 5 i do agree that the Palestinian's have a much greater chance of thriving if they just worked together with isreal....both side are flawed in the way they are going about the situation.....but if i had to lean to one side it would be towards isreal....they are ready to give the Palestinian's concessions of land for peace....to bad Palestinian's want isreal to be wiped off the face of the planet!!.....who knows....probably will be fighting each other 20 years from now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted December 5 Author Report Share Posted December 5 sorry, guyman, you totally lost me...i am only saying what i have experienced as an israeli citizen. it is TRUE, there are jews and then there are the second class. i am not saying we don't have any rights whatsoever. i am saying that it is pretty obvious from the knesset (last time i was in israel there were only 2 arab members of knesset and one druze), the society, the structure of schools, the taxes, etc that there is a bias. as for your bringing up all that historical shit, i've heard that too many times...it was drilled into my head during high school, and i almost bought into it..until i came here and heard both sides. thanks to my american education, i can see this country, israel, and any other countries in the world that are full of shit for what they really are. on a serious note, there was an agreement when the mandates were established in the middle east that the land of palestine would be split into two and shared by both jews and palestinians. the zionist jews with the help of the british (and american financially) army broke this agreement and went ahead to declare the current israeli independence day on may 14, 1948. since then, the US has continously given billions of american tax dollars, of which 85% at one time was spent on military equipment and research for nuclear weapons, etc...i meant what i said about israel holding the US by its balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted December 6 Author Report Share Posted December 6 Originally posted by djxeno On a more happier note, EID MUBARAK -XeNo- Eid Mubarak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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