guyman1966 Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 Theodore RooseveltWhy?Noted scholar and accomplished author – Wrote the definitive book on the War of 1812 at 22 years old. Environmentalist – studied nature and was an avid outdoorsman. He also was the first President to protect land and nature from development.As a State Senator and Governor of NY, he worked to reform party “machine” politics and fought corruption in both his party and the other party. He was the first President to have a Black guest for dinner in the White House. These are just a few reasons. I can go on all day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endo Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 clinton! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgym Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 Originally posted by guyman1966 Theodore RooseveltWhy?Noted scholar and accomplished author – Wrote the definitive book on the War of 1812 at 22 years old. Environmentalist – studied nature and was an avid outdoorsman. He also was the first President to protect land and nature from development.As a State Senator and Governor of NY, he worked to reform party “machine” politics and fought corruption in both his party and the other party. He was the first President to have a Black guest for dinner in the White House. These are just a few reasons. I can go on all day! OMIGOSH! I actually agree with you ! it's a miracle Also, up there would be FDR, Thomas Jefferson and George Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 16 Author Report Share Posted December 16 Originally posted by endo clinton! I don't see how you can compaire Teddy to Bill! It's not even close. Do you have any reasons to back this up? Teddy has also won a Nobel Prize for Peace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 Originally posted by guyman1966 I don't see how you can compaire Teddy to Bill! It's not even close. Do you have any reasons to back this up? Teddy has also won a Nobel Prize for Peace! i agree...they even named a brand of condoms after Teddy R..."Rough Rider" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 16 Author Report Share Posted December 16 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 i agree...they even named a brand of condoms after Teddy R..."Rough Rider" Matas makes a funny joke and better point. Roosevelt led a Calvary regiment that was instrumental in securing Cuba’s freedom from Spain. Many thought he should have received the Congressional Medal Of Honor, but because of jealous politics, was overlooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted December 16 Report Share Posted December 16 FDR: while i dont agree with the gov'ts persecution of the japanese and italian americans at that time, i do respect the man for laying a groundwork of social services and for his judicial appointees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 16 Author Report Share Posted December 16 Originally posted by gmccookny OMIGOSH! I actually agree with you ! it's a miracle Also, up there would be FDR, Thomas Jefferson and George Washington. I also like FDR and GW. I'm not convinced on President Jefferson.HEY MATAS - Can you make those pics any larger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by endo clinton! we're going to get a lot of heat for this however i feel clinton as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by guyman1966 Matas makes a funny joke and better point. Roosevelt led a Calvary regiment that was instrumental in securing Cuba’s freedom from Spain. Many thought he should have received the Congressional Medal Of Honor, but because of jealous politics, was overlooked. i heard a rumor...that Roosevelt didnt even take that hill in Cuba, b/c the hill never existed in Cuba...the hill actually was in Puerto Rico, not Cuba....can any of our CP historians confirm:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 17 Author Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 i heard a rumor...that Roosevelt didnt even take that hill in Cuba, b/c the hill never existed in Cuba...the hill actually was in Puerto Rico, not Cuba....can any of our CP historians confirm:confused: My bad. It was not Cuba. It was the battle of San Juan Hill, Puerto Rico (I have a copy of his biography in my office) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by guyman1966 My bad. It was not Cuba. It was the battle of San Juan Hill, Puerto Rico (I have a copy of his biography in my office) i am a big history buff...sorry...i rather watch History channel than any other channel...well except porn...but thats different;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 17 Author Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 i am a big history buff...sorry...i rather watch History channel than any other channel...well except porn...but thats different;) I was close. I knew it was one of those ungrateful Island wana-B nations...... j/k.Now, to more important things... THE HISTORY CHANNEL!!!! wtf! When do you watch Fox Sports Net? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by guyman1966 I was close. I knew it was one of those ungrateful Island wana-B nations...... j/k.Now, to more important things... THE HISTORY CHANNEL!!!! wtf! When do you watch Fox Sports Net? i watch the Fox Sports channel...at night..if ESPN is having a shitty college basketball game or whatever...oh about ur ungrateful island wanna b nation comment ----> :finger: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 17 Author Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by dgmodel we're going to get a lot of heat for this however i feel clinton as well... I don't agree with you, but I'd love to hear your reasoning. I think Clinton killed the economy, destroyed national security (China & Middle East), and was more concerned w/ his image than getting the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by guyman1966 I don't agree with you, but I'd love to hear your reasoning. I think Clinton killed the economy, destroyed national security (China & Middle East), and was more concerned w/ his image than getting the job done. correct me if i am wrong..but why does Clinton get credit for the economy? wasnt it the Republican lead congress that passed the Partnership with America bill? that boost this economy sky high? then again Gore invented the Internet so who knows:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 17 Author Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 i heard a rumor...that Roosevelt didnt even take that hill in Cuba, b/c the hill never existed in Cuba...the hill actually was in Puerto Rico, not Cuba....can any of our CP historians confirm:confused: I should have never doubted myself! I was right the first time. When I read San Juan Hill, I assumed you were right and it was in PR. Nope, at lunch I looked over my books and San Jan Hill was in Cuba!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by guyman1966 I should have never doubted myself! I was right the first time. When I read San Juan Hill, I assumed you were right and it was in PR. Nope, at lunch I looked over my books and San Jan Hill was in Cuba!!!! thats what i am saying...G-U-Y-M-A-N, i read somewhere that it never took place in Cuba...it happened elsewhere and there was no charge up the hill...u know like people saying that we never ACTUALLY walked on the moon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly0616 Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 I think George W. is doing a fantastic job with the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 17 Author Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 thats what i am saying...G-U-Y-M-A-N, i read somewhere that it never took place in Cuba...it happened elsewhere and there was no charge up the hill...u know like people saying that we never ACTUALLY walked on the moon.... Come on now. It was Cuba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by guyman1966 Come on now. It was Cuba. i am being serious...let me research it...and get back to ya... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by kelly0616 I think George W. is doing a fantastic job with the country. i hope you're joking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted December 18 Report Share Posted December 18 Originally posted by guyman1966 Come on now. It was Cuba. got the 411 u Teddy R. lover....he did go up the hill (San Juan) in Cuba...but there is a big twist to the whole story...Teddy's calvary unit was gettting ready in Fl to get shipped to Cuba...well his calvary unit only had use of something like 10-15% of his horses...so they decided to go without them, but this whole deal of trying to get more horses etc...delayed them...when they arrived to Cuba and made it to San Juan Hill, the Mambis had almost overrun the Spanish garrison...so WITHOUT the horses they ran up the hill and join in the attack...so u see kids, Teddy R. really never rode up the hill of San Juan with Rough Rider condoms on...he went bareback:laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 18 Author Report Share Posted December 18 Originally posted by kelly0616 I think George W. is doing a fantastic job with the country. I think he is doing a "good" job, but can you really compare him to FDR, GW, Honest Abe and Teddy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyman1966 Posted December 18 Author Report Share Posted December 18 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 got the 411 u Teddy R. lover....he did go up the hill (San Juan) in Cuba...but there is a big twist to the whole story...Teddy's calvary unit was gettting ready in Fl to get shipped to Cuba...well his calvary unit only had use of something like 10-15% of his horses...so they decided to go without them, but this whole deal of trying to get more horses etc...delayed them...when they arrived to Cuba and made it to San Juan Hill, the Mambis had almost overrun the Spanish garrison...so WITHOUT the horses they ran up the hill and join in the attack...so u see kids, Teddy R. really never rode up the hill of San Juan with Rough Rider condoms on...he went bareback:laugh: Your on the right track... but if my memory is correct, Yes he walked through Cuba, but the US forces did not notice the smaller San Juan hill, they were concentrating on a larger hill. So, he improvised a charge up San Juan Hill. Who knows, maybe your Cuban history book is correct and the Mambis were already there, maybe my US book left that part out....?? What ever, he was there and fought for the liberation of Cuba. And, during his presidency he pulled the US Governor out and gave control of the country back to Cubans. He should be a Cuban hero! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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