kramadas Posted December 27 Report Share Posted December 27 http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/12/27/human.cloning/index.htmlHOLLYWOOD, Florida (CNN) -- A company founded by a religious group that believes humans were created by extraterrestrials said Friday that it has created the first human clone -- a 7-pound baby girl it calls Eve. "I am very pleased to announce that the first baby clone is born," said Brigitte Boisselier, the scientific director of Clonaid and a bishop in the group, called the Raelians. "She was born yesterday at 11:55 a.m. in the country where she was born. She is fine." Boisselier refused to disclose where Eve was born but did reveal that the mother is a 31-year-old American citizen. She said Eve was created using DNA from the mother's skin cells and is a twin of her mother. In an exclusive interview with CNN after the announcement, Boisselier said advances in the field of human in-vitro fertilization and cow cloning added to her success. "We have experts with 24 years of experience in the reproduction of humans and benefited from that.... (and also from) the work that has been done on cow cloning, of course," Boisselier said. "My expert, the one technician that did the embryo, did more than 3,000 cow embryos before touching any human eggs." At the news conference, Boisselier said four other cloned babies are expected to be born by February. Boisselier offered no immediate proof of her claim -- or photographs of the baby. She said the baby is healthy, and that the family is "very happy." She said that she is allowing a freelance journalist to verify her claim. To that end, freelance journalist and physicist Dr. Michael Guillen has picked a panel of independent experts to investigate. "I have accepted on two conditions: that the invitation be given with no strings attached whatsoever and that the tests be conducted by a group of independent world-class experts," Guillen said. The experts will begin their tests in a few days when Eve returns home, Boisselier said. Results of the tests are expected in eight to nine days. Clonaid, which calls itself the "first human cloning company," was founded by the Raelians in 1997. The Raelian movement professes that life on Earth was created through genetic engineering by extraterrestrials. The Raelians believe their spiritual leader -- former French journalist Claude Vorilhon who now calls himself Rael -- is a direct descendant of these aliens. He says he has met with aliens and visited their planet. Rael told CNN in July 2001 that the long-term goal for human cloning is to live forever. Rael says the Raelians eventually want to learn how to clone an adult and then "transfer the brain to the clone." Boisselier said she hopes to one day open cloning clinics on each continent to help infertile couples have families. More clones on the way?To make a clone, scientists first take an egg and remove all of its genetic material. Then the nucleus of a cell -- any cell in the body -- is taken from the individual to be cloned and inserted into the hollowed-out egg. The cell is then given a jolt of electricity or put in a chemical bath to activate cell division -- essentially tricking the cell into doing what a fertilized egg would normally do. Then the embryo is implanted into a woman's uterus who carries the baby to term. Boisselier said Clonaid used this procedure of electricity to activate cell division for Eve. At the conference, Boisselier defended human cloning, saying she is giving hope to infertile parents. "Is my science, giving babies to parents who have been dying to get one with their own genes, is my science worse than the ones who are preparing bombs to kill people?" Boisselier said. "I am creating life." Eve is one of ten implantations done by Clonaid. Five babies were spontaneously terminated during the first few weeks of pregnancy, Boisselier said. The next baby is expected to be born next week in northern Europe. Three other cloned human babies should be born by early February; Boisselier revealed that two of the expecting sets of parents are from Asia and another is from North America. She also said one couple is lesbian and two had babies who died and were then cloned by Clonaid. 'Not a monster'Despite the success of the procedure, Boisselier said the event should be kept in perspective. "It's very important to remember we are talking about a baby," Boisselier said. "She is not a monster or some result of something that is disgusting. She is a very healthy baby with very happy parents." Rael and the parents of Eve were not at the press conference. The Raelians are also not the only group claiming to actively try to clone a human. Italian doctor S*****no Antinori made several announcements in recent months, claiming that a woman was carrying a human clone, which would be born in January. And former University of Kentucky professor Panos Zavos has also announced plans to clone a human, but he told CNN earlier this year he had not successfully created an embryo yet. While the Bush administration has not reacted specifically to the news, the president earlier this year made his position clear -- he objects to any form of cloning. In an April 10 speech urging the Senate to support a bill banning human cloning in the United States, Bush called the practice "deeply troubling" and said "even the most noble ends do not justify any means." "Life is a creation, not a commodity," he had said. "Our children are gifts to be loved and protected, not products to be designed and manufactured." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted December 27 Report Share Posted December 27 I KNEW IT!!! ive been speaking about this Raelians Cult Shit for ages now... theyre insane... i knew they were going to be the first to do it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted December 28 Report Share Posted December 28 do you believe what they believe is true, then?i read a book from a guy named david icke, who supposedly believes the same thing...would be an interesting theory indeed...just because we haven't seen them doesn't necessarily mean it's not true...anything is possible...maybe people are a bit afraid to realize that....that would blow religion and other forms of mind control over people out of the water...no more structure...etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwater Posted December 28 Report Share Posted December 28 i believe in aliens...but i don't think they ever came to earth....cloning humans is one fucked up thing....but like everything else.....its just human curiosity and science taking its course....people used to think it was immoral to disect human bodies for study.....imagine if that never was allowed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwater Posted December 28 Report Share Posted December 28 welcome back raver_mania....been a long time since you been around here....hope all is well!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djxeno Posted December 28 Report Share Posted December 28 This is fucked up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djxeno Posted December 28 Report Share Posted December 28 I do believe that aliens could exist. I mean theres alot of sightings and shit and what not, and what about them crop circles. As far as them creating humans, get the fuck out of here!!!What blasphemous shit!However there is a strong possibility that aliens do exits, I mean long at the size of the universe, and even some religions have hinted at their existence, if you choose to interpret them that way...-XeNo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted December 28 Report Share Posted December 28 Originally posted by sassa do you believe what they believe is true, then? no.... just saying ive been reading a lot about them for some time now... theyve had articles in NYT, WSJ, etc.. so couldnt help but read it... do i follow them? do i believe in them??? no... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramadas Posted December 28 Author Report Share Posted December 28 Originally posted by underwater welcome back raver_mania....been a long time since you been around here....hope all is well!! Hey, thanks, man! Yeah, I was on vacation for the last 4 weeks, and now am recovering from jetlag! I agree with Sassa...there's a definitely a *possibility* that aliens *could* have tampered with ape's DNA to produce humans - I mean, all of a sudden, almost a million(??) years ago, there was this huge jump in intelligence levels of these apes. Arthur C Clarke touched upon this in his novel 2001: Space Odyssey.Or it could just be environmental changes that forced humunoids to adapt.Though, the alien tampering theory is a VERY remote possibility only.I kinda wish there will be first contact soon...maybe then, we can finally learn not to fight against each other and live in peace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwater Posted December 28 Report Share Posted December 28 this sect was formed by a ex-race car driver who claims that he had 25 visits with aliens from the top of this volcano....and that they created the human race through cloning 25,000 years ago.... a little to funky for me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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