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Originally posted by cintron

Kurds in the north

not to start more arguments.. but I was under the impression that the kurds aren't necessarily the nicest people either.. just like israel isn't the sweet little angel the media likes to believe (i'm not definitely palestinian attacks, i just think both sides are almost equally evil)...

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Originally posted by willisj68

who if you're not really sure can control a large portion of our economy and life in general by upping the oil prices.. which again, is all this war is about..

no.

we get a small percentage of oil from iraq.

you don't ship thouands of soldiers and equipment half a world away just to defend 15 cents at the pump.

Originally posted by willisj68

anyway, sorry, I ramble.. my original point was.. goddamn you're an idiot.. but sure, the super soldiers can kill him.. and if they were around and could i'm sure they would quote bad war movie lines and try and start intelligent topics on clubplanet when basic intelligence is most likely far above them.. ughh

willis

basic intelligence, hmmm...

You don't know much about how highly trained and motivated killers work, do you.

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Originally posted by cintron

no.

we get a small percentage of oil from iraq.

you don't ship thouands of soldiers and equipment half a world away just to defend 15 cents at the pump.

basic intelligence, hmmm...

You don't know much about how highly trained and motivated killers work, do you.

please.. explain how highly trained and motivated killers work.. i would love to know.. anyway, i'm not saying it can't be done, it probably could.. would it be the easiest thing in the world.. no.. it wouldn't.. and i'm not personally attacking you because you seem to make more rational points in your posts and don't go spouting off about super-soldiers :D...

and in regards to the oil comment... yes, iraq doesn't account for much of our oil.. however, iraq has massive oil reserves.. most of those reserves aren't sold because iraq is under embargo from the last war (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong).. and even if they are being sold, i'm sure they could produce more and if a dictator more to our liking was in place there, the more they sold would be even cheaper.. and you really don't think our goverment (which knows that our country is dependant on oil, and that oil will become increasingly hard to get.. see drilling in alaska) would send troops and machines and everything else over there for 15 cents at the pump.. stop kidding yourself..

while oil may not be the only consideration, don't fool yourself and believe that a war on iraq is over human rights of the iraqi people (hell if we're going to fight for human rights.. Hi, saudi arabia, how are you.. ooh china, how ya doin...), or even better a war on terrorism.. please.. that term makes me sick.. if you want a war on terrorism, we should be talking to saudi arabia.. oh wait, they supply too much oil... hmm.. palestine and israel... can't do that.. so we'll just attack iraq instead and try to feed it to the american people as a war against terror and the "axis of evil" when there is no proven link between iraq and the terrorist attacks on our country

willis

i guarantee i spelled something wrong.. dont' be stupid and call me on it, it's 2 f'ing 30 in the morning, I can't sleep and i'm bored.. you get the point

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oh.. and I forgot, a necessary pre-emptive war because of all the dangerous weapons he has.. which conveniently, bush can spout off on the evidence of, yet never produce the evidence..

if we have all this evidence that saddam has wmd's.. why not give it to the inspectors.. give it to the public and make us believe you... instead, he just says it and offers no proof to back it up.. that is unacceptable..

willis

*all for a war on terrorism, entirely against war on iraq*

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i believe war is a necessary evil.

"necessary" in that, unfortunately, sometimes it cannot be avoided or resolved diplomatically. (how do you tell hitler to come to a roundtable to have some cocktails and iron out the issues?)

"evil" - the pillage, the destruction, the lives lost. you get the idea.

the question is, who's to say when it is "necessary"? this is where all you pundits come in.

i'm optimistically clinging onto the possibility (remote?) that the US is flexing its superpower muscles by sending thousands of troops and the naval fleet to the persian gulf merely as a deterrence by intimidation; that this aggressive mobilization of troops and the engineered perception that war is inevitable would either make iraq come clean or cause a coup d'etat.

but then again, my head may be in the clouds.

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How dare you call me stupid? Have you not paid attention to the masterful handling of the english vocabulary by I??

Do you not find the hilarity in my posts? I am as funny as poochy the dog, if not, comedianer. You know, a famous anonymus historical figure once said "humor (or funniness, one of the two) is sign of intelligent."

So let it be known by all, I AM INTELLIGENCE! Only bc i dont dare to bore everyone with armchair professor type of rhetoric, doesn't mean that I am a dumby!

Oh and by the way, are u fuckin kiddin me? calling Saving private ryan a bad movie? holy shit, dont even get me started on that one. Sorry I dont have the same taste as you and make the mistake of not quoting from Crossroads, A walk to remember, and Sparkle.

Originally posted by willisj68

seriously now, I really would love to know just how stupid you are.. i realize this is a clubbing message board, there doesn't have to be too much serious shit on it.. but since you started this whole little thread you would think you might have some shred of human intelligence.. you know, something to distinguish you from your ape ancestors.. yeah, i'm sure there's a super agent that could do it.. he's probably a lot like the dude from halo.. so just get him the active camo, then he'll be invisible and he can just walk all the way thru f'ing iraq and kill sadam.. and that wouldn't cause any sort of reprucussions (sp?) with the rest of the arab world, who if you're not really sure can control a large portion of our economy and life in general by upping the oil prices.. which again, is all this war is about.. well that and getting back at the guy who wanted to have daddy killed..

anyway, sorry, I ramble.. my original point was.. goddamn you're an idiot.. but sure, the super soldiers can kill him.. and if they were around and could i'm sure they would quote bad war movie lines and try and start intelligent topics on clubplanet when basic intelligence is most likely far above them.. ughh

willis

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You know, as much of a blittering idiot that you make yourself out to be by not being able to recognize the grandeur that is my intelligence, i must give u mad ill props homez for having the balls to say what u did.

No one's really touched on the israel subject...I think partly b\c of hesitation to not offend jewish or muslim members on the board.

But yes, Israel is quite not the innocent victim but that's reserved for another nerdy thread.

Originally posted by willisj68

not to start more arguments.. but I was under the impression that the kurds aren't necessarily the nicest people either.. just like israel isn't the sweet little angel the media likes to believe (i'm not definitely palestinian attacks, i just think both sides are almost equally evil)...

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Originally posted by luiskain

You know, as much of a blittering idiot that you make yourself out to be by not being able to recognize the grandeur that is my intelligence, i must give u mad ill props homez for having the balls to say what u did.

hey thanks... it's good to have my idiocy recognized by one as trained in the art as yourself (jk) :D...

and as for my movie taste.. you mean you didn't think glitter should be a script for how to live your life??.. oh man, now I just have no respect for you at all

willis

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Originally posted by luiskain

I know there's a US law against assasinations but like, would it really be that hard to take Sadam out?

I mean, I'm sure there's a super agent who can do it.

"...you get me and this here rifle anywhere from and up to 100 feet of Sadam, pack your bags, boy, war's over"

"that's great, bumpkin..."

there is a law, but that hasn't stopped the US from executing at least 8 individuals who held high offices in LDC's...

i know that they have assassinated presidents in south america, including allende...

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Originally posted by sassa

there is a law, but that hasn't stopped the US from executing at least 8 individuals who held high offices in LDC's...

i know that they have assassinated presidents in south america, including allende...

there WAS a law. It was revoked in the late 70's.

Bush recently re-instituted it.

We could have taken out Saddam and other threats that currently plague us but unfortunately we had our hands tied.

it wouldn't be too difficult to make Osama or Saddam die in a "car bomb" or some random obscure accident.

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Originally posted by jennifera

actually i went in the navy when i was 17....i did my time

so a big fu goes out to you

military should be mandatory like it is in some other countries....i think it would toughen up some of pussies that we have in this country

hell's yeah that's right cause there's a lot of peeps in this site that talk alot of bs but i dont think they would want to go through what weve been through if u know wat i mean.......:cool:

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Originally posted by cintron

not really when you look at it. In other countries, "mandatory" military service is a short term commitment - training, basic military procedure and then a period on the reserve list.

It's like a 10 week "course", if you will.

But it sure helps to make people appreciate what it's all about.

Some countries use that military training as a requirement to graduate from high school... which isn't such a bad idea considering the other useless shit you are forced to take. (Home Ed, and whatever basketweaving courses are in public schools today).

how bout talking bout marine boot which is 3 months.....

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