Codica3 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 Social scientist C. Layne writes:"Empirical research indicates that depressives are cognitively realistic, while nondepressives are cognitively distorted.... Normals appear to be less in touch with reality than are depressives. Normals are even less in touch than are depressed outpatients and even hospitalized inpatients! The major implication of the empirical literature is that depressives' thoughts are painfully truthful, whereas nondepressives' thoughts are unrealistically positive."Discuss.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgym Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 I think that's a fairly extreme statement.that person is basically saying that people who suffer from Depression see the world more realistically, while non-depressive people have an idealized picture of the world.I will admit, im an optimistic person. But that doesn't mean i can't be realistic. ...will write more later..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 "I'm not pessimistic...I'm realistic..."in some ways, i can see what this guy is saying...but i don't think it can be true for the majority of the population...you can be happy and still have a grip on reality... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cessy Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Originally posted by sassa "I'm not pessimistic...I'm realistic..."in some ways, i can see what this guy is saying...but i don't think it can be true for the majority of the population...you can be happy and still have a grip on reality... i totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSyNcBaBy Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 what she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Originally posted by Codica3 Social scientist C. Layne writes:"Empirical research indicates that depressives are cognitively realistic, while nondepressives are cognitively distorted.... Normals appear to be less in touch with reality than are depressives. Normals are even less in touch than are depressed outpatients and even hospitalized inpatients! The major implication of the empirical literature is that depressives' thoughts are painfully truthful, whereas nondepressives' thoughts are unrealistically positive."Discuss.. agreed... ppl who are overlly positive are nowhere near in touch with their realities... nor their surroundings... from my experience... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codica3 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 Just so Layne gets the proper address, it's a woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weyes Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 everyone has his/her theories of what life is and means, and that influences his/her attitude towards it. if your reality is that life isn't so hot, than you might think that the happy people are in a delusional haze. if you think life is a fabulous journey, you may think that the depressed people are wasting their time and don't know what they're missing.an ex-therapist (she needed more help than i did/do) once told me that, i, as a depressed individual, "am wrong and they're [everyone else] right." to paraphrase the rest, she said that the world is happy and i'm not, so there's an easy observation: majority rules. that was after she called me "mentally defective" and "not a person."before i dumped her, i began wondering if the diploma on her wall were real ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nSyNcBaBy Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 i can understand where this would come from :not u weyes, the post in general: but just because a person is extremely optimistic doesnt mean that he/she is not realistic... people like that are genuinely really positive yet im sure have healthy forms of negativity.... the kind that doesnt control their lives, or stop them from doing everyday things.. thats when it becomes a problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codica3 Posted March 10 Author Report Share Posted March 10 Originally posted by weyes she said that the world is happy and i'm not, so there's an easy observation: majority rules. that was after she called me "mentally defective" and "not a person." Umm.. what a fucked up thing for a therapist to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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