kramadas Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by girly Theres a purpose and a good for every war fought .. Or so we'd like to believe, right?Or rather, made to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by raver_mania Or so we'd like to believe, right?Or rather, made to believe. some good does come out of every war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by dnice35 some good does come out of every war. what good came out of Grenada? or Chile? or Vietnam? or El Salvador? or Cuba? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by dnice35 some good does come out of every war. elaborate on your comment, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by bigpoppanils or Cuba? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by sassa elaborate on your comment, please. for instance, there will be alot of openings in the Iraqi millitary, secondly the unemployment rate will defenetly be lower after the war, than before the war started.......ummm.... there will be alot of construction jobs available after the war... jk-well maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by sassa elaborate on your comment, please. seriously though, the one good thing which always comes after a war is. that people value human life that much more, once the war ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycmuzik Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by sassa elaborate on your comment, please. Well we're liberating a country....Getting rid of an opressive leader....Giving the Iraqi people a chance to live in freedom....Hopefully changing Anti-US sentiment in the Middle East....Letting people in the middle east see that you can live better lives if you get rid of the people that opress you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girly Posted April 2 Author Report Share Posted April 2 after reading some of these replies, i can't help but thinking again, why the fuck do some of you live in this country:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycmuzik Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Its very easy to bash a war that might affect the american way life even though it liberates a group of people that have been opressed for decades....Live a day in the life of the Iraqis and all the anti-war people would be singing a different tune.....Marching down the street chanting out against your gov't would get You and your family killed in iraq....Posting anti-gov't crap on the internet....Def. garuntee you a few broken legs if not more....I for one am totally for this war no matter how it affects my lifestyle cause in the long run it will do alot of good for America and the rest of the world.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by nycmuzik Its very easy to bash a war that might affect the american way life even though it liberates a group of people that have been opressed for decades....Live a day in the life of the Iraqis and all the anti-war people would be singing a different tune.....Marching down the street chanting out against your gov't would get You and your family killed in iraq....Posting anti-gov't crap on the internet....Def. garuntee you a few broken legs if not more....I for one am totally for this war no matter how it affects my lifestyle cause in the long run it will do alot of good for America and the rest of the world.... lets face it most liberals are self centered, they talk all this bull shit, yet they do not know what the Iraqi people go through on a daily basis, nor are they willing to bare arms and defend the Iraqi peoples rights. pure cowardness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by dnice35 seriously though, the one good thing which always comes after a war is. that people value human life that much more, once the war ends. interesting. why do you think this is so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by dnice35 lets face it most liberals are self centered, they talk all this bull shit, yet they do not know what the Iraqi people go through on a daily basis, nor are they willing to bare arms and defend the Iraqi peoples rights. pure cowardness. i suppose "non-liberals" would know about this more than "liberals" would? please. what a dumb comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by nycmuzik Its very easy to bash a war that might affect the american way life even though it liberates a group of people that have been opressed for decades....Live a day in the life of the Iraqis and all the anti-war people would be singing a different tune.....Marching down the street chanting out against your gov't would get You and your family killed in iraq....Posting anti-gov't crap on the internet....Def. garuntee you a few broken legs if not more....I for one am totally for this war no matter how it affects my lifestyle cause in the long run it will do alot of good for America and the rest of the world.... nice comment, but you are also touching the surface of this issue. you don't bring into account the basis behind this country's intent to invade and destroy the infrastructure of iraq. granted, we can all agree that saddam is a bad influence. but who said it was up to us to take him out? i believe people see the truth but choose to believe whatever is convenient for them. i would rather continue to oppose this war and risk having a broken leg (although it won't happen) rather than be duped by what this fake president and ill-equipped administration is giving us. if anyone believes everything they say for face value, then they truly are an idiot.blacks and women in this country have been oppressed for decades, why don't they take care of their internal affairs first before meddling in the internal affairs of other nation-states? this would be deemed illegal under international law as well, and was one of the components for the westphalia treaty in the 17th century...the basis of the modern concepts of international law and the idea of the nation-state itself, an idea that the USA claims it upholds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by sassa i suppose "non-liberals" would know about this more than "liberals" would? please. what a dumb comment. sorry, I was trying to say, those who oppose the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by sassa interesting. why do you think this is so. after seing the destruction and loss of life cause by war, people tend to value and appreciate life that much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by dnice35 after seing the destruction and loss of life cause by war, people tend to value and appreciate life that much more. hmmm..... I actually sound like a decent human being in that post. sometimes I worry myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by dnice35 hmmm..... I actually sound like a decent human being in that post. sometimes I worry myself. yes, for a second, i mistook you as one myself...then i saw your screenname...and i was jolted back into reality.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccentricmofo Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by girly after reading some of these replies, i can't help but thinking again, why the fuck do some of you live in this country:confused: I'd have to agree with the Girly girl, At first, I was very interested in this thread of beautiful photo's of liberating Iraq (as my opinion of the the context), then I was sicked by this turning into yet another silly whose for war and whose not battle... blah.. What's done is done... Man up, step up, and support your country. Realize this, granted it could be seen as courageous or obedient so on and so forth. One thing it is, is necessary, no one would argue that an evil man should be in power of a country as well as be allowed to get away with murder, and even semi- attempted genocide, (4,000, kurds a few years back) as well as a number of other vicious acts Im not even going to bother to mention. Granted you can say the U.S. is playing the global bully, just becuase we are getting into everyone else's business. To those that believe and support that idea, realize this, many a countries have noted of Saddam's wrong doing, but hardly any took the initiative to do something about it. The USA, is not a bully, but rather a big brother, of the world. We see someone being picked on, we fuck em up..simple as that. Ok, Ill save my full on speech for another day...Peace (punn intended) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by sassa yes, for a second, i mistook you as one myself...then i saw your screenname...and i was jolted back into reality.... hey I can be decent when I want,..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by eccentricmofo The USA, is not a bully, but rather a big brother, of the world. We see someone being picked on, we fuck em up..simple as that. Ok, Ill save my full on speech for another day...Peace (punn intended) not in the name of justice...but if they want something from that country. please! don't be so blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycmuzik Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by sassa nice comment, but you are also touching the surface of this issue. you don't bring into account the basis behind this country's intent to invade and destroy the infrastructure of iraq. granted, we can all agree that saddam is a bad influence. but who said it was up to us to take him out? i believe people see the truth but choose to believe whatever is convenient for them. i would rather continue to oppose this war and risk having a broken leg (although it won't happen) rather than be duped by what this fake president and ill-equipped administration is giving us. if anyone believes everything they say for face value, then they truly are an idiot.blacks and women in this country have been oppressed for decades, why don't they take care of their internal affairs first before meddling in the internal affairs of other nation-states? this would be deemed illegal under international law as well, and was one of the components for the westphalia treaty in the 17th century...the basis of the modern concepts of international law and the idea of the nation-state itself, an idea that the USA claims it upholds. The infrastructure of Iraq is beign spared at great costs and its putting alot of American soldiers at risk....Why havent coalition forces moved into Basra yet?....The reason is because the Iraqi soldiers are hiding in civilian areas and those have been labeled "off-limit' targets....So the coalition is going to great lengths to make sure that once Saddam is out of the power, the Iraqi people have a large part of their country still intact...And the reason that we have to go in is because the Iraqi people are not capable of taking care of their own problem....He is a threat to us and he must be taken out....If people want us to fight AIDS in Africa and give money to under-developed countries all over the world than we reserve the right to defend ourselves whenever a problem like Saddam comes up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccentricmofo Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 Originally posted by sassa not in the name of justice...but if they want something from that country. please! don't be so blind. I'm not blind at all, I do indeed understand the fact that there is more then one motive at play here.. Think of it this way, I will say that politics in this country ( my opinion) have been way too intertwined with the economic little bird on the US's shoulder. Causing policy to be filled with money instigated blah blah b.s. I can agree with that way of thinking. But with almost every single conflict, war, etc, there has always been many perspectives you can take on it. The reason, I believe, is that no action would be taken if it just was one motive, so a collection of reasons is presented....causing action to finally take place. Going in for oil, eases the worries of the money mogules and going in for liberating the Iraqi people eases the mind of pretty much every one else...Welcome to politics...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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