dnice35 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 WASHINGTON — Evidence has been found in the Kurdish-controlled regions of northern Iraq that the Islamic militant group Ansar al-Islam was working on three types of chlorine gas and ricin and has ties to Al Qaeda, U.S. officials told Fox News.Officials said that between 75 and 150 Al Qaeda members have been captured or killed in northern Iraq in recent days. U.S. sources told Fox News that documents and equipment were found in the rubble of an Ansar facility that had been built into a cliff near Sargat. The material was described as "a cookbook and kitchen" for chemical weapons.Other items included latex gloves, penicillin, a freezer and lab equipment. Sources said additional tests are planned.Two suspected Al Qaeda members escaped into Iran but surrendered to the Iranian Revolutionary Guards. Iran has said it will hand over captured Ansar members. U.S. officials are waiting for them.There were indications earlier that Ansar al-Islam was getting help from inside neighboring Iran.Kurdish and Turkish intelligence officials said many of Ansar's 700 members have slipped out of Iraq and into Iran.Earlier this week, a coalition assault on a compound controlled by Ansar al-Islam in Biyare, northern Iraq, turned up lists of names of suspected militants living in the United States.Coalition troops found computer discs and other materials belonging to Arab fighters from around the Middle East. The findings could be the strongest evidence yet to support the Bush administration's arguments that the Iraqi-based group is connected to Al Qaeda.A high-level Kurdish intelligence official said three Ansar leaders -- identified as Ayoub Afghani, Abdullah Shafeye and Abu Wahel -- were among those who had fled into Iran. The official said the three were seen being detained by Iranian authorities Sunday. Fox News confirmed that Afghani was one of the fugitives."We asked the Iranian authorities to hand over to us any of the Afghan Arabs or Islamic militants hiding themselves inside the villages of Iran," said Boorhan Saeed, a member of the pro-U.S. Patriotic Union of Kurdistan. "We asked them about it Sunday, and still don't have a response."Among the evidence found inside Ansar compounds were passports and identity papers of Ansar activists indicating that up to 150 of them were foreigners, including Yemenis, Turks, Palestinians, Pakistanis, Algerians and Iranians.Coalition forces also found a phone book containing numbers of alleged Islamic activists based in the United States and Europe as well as the number of a Kuwaiti cleric and a letter from Yemen's minister of religion."What we've discovered in Biyare is a very sophisticated operation," said Barham Salih, prime minister of the Kurdish regional government.Seized computer disks contained evidence showing meetings between Ansar and Al Qaeda activists, according to Mahdi Saeed Ali, a military commander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted April 3 Author Report Share Posted April 3 I wanna know if this is enough evidence, for you anti-war people, to justify the war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ou812 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 The Kurdish opposition is just that, opposition against Saddam.They aren't allies, what's wrong with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted April 3 Author Report Share Posted April 3 Originally posted by ou812 The Kurdish opposition is just that, opposition against Saddam.They aren't allies, what's wrong with you? Did I say they were allies ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ou812 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Well, why should we go and invade Bagdhad, if there are Kurdish rebels with posible ties to Al-Quada sitting in Northern Iraq.There is no justification made by this article, at least none for the invasion of all of Iraq that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted April 3 Author Report Share Posted April 3 Originally posted by ou812 Well, why should we go and invade Bagdhad, if there are Kurdish rebels with posible ties to Al-Quada sitting in Northern Iraq.There is no justification made by this article, at least none for the invasion of all of Iraq that's for sure. by disabling this terror camp, I think this war has produce positive results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicman Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 i thought the kurds were enemies of saddam. this happened in their controlled territory. thats why saddam or no saddam, unless they go after every country in the region, the ousting of saddam accomplishes nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintron Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Originally posted by ou812 There is no justification made by this article, at least none for the invasion of all of Iraq that's for sure. IMO, there's no justification made by any article that comes from any source outside of military intelligence or CentCom. All most of them are, are just lots of hot air and opinions backed up by thiny spread facts, manipulated to lend creedence to the writer's viewpoint.Very rarely are ANY of the articles people post here, objective in nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mahs Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Originally posted by vicman i thought the kurds were enemies of saddam. this happened in their controlled territory. thats why saddam or no saddam, unless they go after every country in the region, the ousting of saddam accomplishes nothing. "Beacon of Democracy" my freind please look past the thinking of the left and look at the whole picture... Changing the regime,improving the way of life for the Iraqi's, set an example that democracy works= Less terrorism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ou812 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Originally posted by mr mahs "Beacon of Democracy" my freind please look past the thinking of the left and look at the whole picture... Changing the regime,improving the way of life for the Iraqi's, set an example that democracy works= Less terrorism Beacon of Democracy??? The U.S.'s track record at help war torn countries re-establish a government is pitiful.If we do happen to succeed in Iraq, the only kind of government that we'll help establish is one that let's us do what we want in regards to oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mahs Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 And if that is the outcome don't you agree the people of Iraq as well as the rest of the would be a hella of alot better...Is that all the left can come up with when talking aboutr Iraq the oil it's all about oil?? That argumant is getting so stale...--The world will be a better place with out that nut..-The Iraqi people will be liberated setting the stage for the rest of the region including PalenstIne..-The price at the pump will drop....Sounds like a brilliant plan to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mahs Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Oh and Japan & South Korea is an example of us screwing up when we rebuilt a country??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicman Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Originally posted by mr mahs And if that is the outcome don't you agree the people of Iraq as well as the rest of the would be a hella of alot better...Is that all the left can come up with when talking aboutr Iraq the oil it's all about oil?? That argumant is getting so stale...--The world will be a better place with out that nut..-The Iraqi people will be liberated setting the stage for the rest of the region including PalenstIne..-The price at the pump will drop....Sounds like a brilliant plan to me... we'll see if in 20 years time there isnt a Saddam II in power in Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicman Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Originally posted by mr mahs "Beacon of Democracy" my freind please look past the thinking of the left and look at the whole picture... Changing the regime,improving the way of life for the Iraqi's, set an example that democracy works= Less terrorism i truly doubt that the average Iraqi will be making more than $1 a month a few years from now. the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer and another dictatorship will arise in the hopes of keeping control over their riches. that story tends to repeat itself too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mahs Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Originally posted by vicman i truly doubt that the average Iraqi will be making more than $1 a month a few years from now. the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer and another dictatorship will arise in the hopes of keeping control over their riches. that story tends to repeat itself too much. Is that what happened in Kuwait?? Where europeans are migrating today because it's a beautiful place in the middle east.Kuwait is the equivalent of florida breaking away from the U.S..Why is it that the two places Iraq and Kuwait are like night and day??Dude don't be so pessimistic , got to hope for the better it's not a democratic administration spearheading this operation:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramadas Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Originally posted by mr mahs Is that what happened in Kuwait?? Where europeans are migrating today because it's a beautiful place in the middle east.Kuwait is the equivalent of florida breaking away from the U.S..Why is it that the two places Iraq and Kuwait are like night and day??Dude don't be so pessimistic , got to hope for the better it's not a democratic administration spearheading this operation:D Dude, Kuwait was one of, if not THE richest, country in the world before 1990. There were many Europeans there even before the Gulf War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siceone Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Originally posted by raver_mania Dude, Kuwait was one of, if not THE richest, country in the world before 1990. There were many Europeans there even before the Gulf War. since when is kuwait poor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramadas Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Originally posted by siceone since when is kuwait poor? Its not, but I was trying to say that people were already attracted to the place before this whole US/IRaq thing in 1990. Thus, the reason many "europeans" are migrating there might not have as much to do with US intervention as to do with Kuwait's own merit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mahs Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Okay fine but I was trying to illustrate that Iraq and Kuwait are practically the same country with the same lucrative natural resources but one is a shithole the other isn't why???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siceone Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 by the way the kurdish opposition is NOT the al queda terrist group in Northern Iraq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Originally posted by vicman we'll see if in 20 years time there isnt a Saddam II in power in Iraq. is that really fair to say? what makes u think in the coming years another Hitler wont arise from Germany?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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