underwater Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 U.S.: Iran will infiltrate 5 Iraqi cities By Eli J. LakeUPI State Department CorrespondentFrom the International DeskPublished 4/3/2003 3:28 PMView printer-friendly versionWASHINGTON, April 3 (UPI) -- Iran's senior leadership decided last month to send irregular paramilitary units across their border with Iraq to harass American soldiers once Saddam Hussein's regime fell, according to U.S. intelligence reports. On March 24, a U.S. intelligence agency issued a "spot report" to a wide range of senior U.S. officials detailing conversations in a meeting of the Islamic Republic's top leadership in the equivalent of the U.S. National Security Council. The council, which is working on Iran's post-conflict strategy, includes Iranian President Mohammed Khatami and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamanei."This confirmed all of our suspicions that the Iranians are not our friends and not for peace in the region. They are in fact for a piece of the region," one U.S. intelligence official told United Press International. This official said the units would target the Iraqi cities of al-Najaf and Karbala, the two places in Iraq considered holiest by the country's Shiite minority. But also targeted would be Baghdad, where several hundred thousand Iraqi Shiites live in the suburb known as Saddam City, as well as Basra and the oil-rich northern city of Kirkuk. "They were saying we have to be careful ultimately in the battle for Iraq. This is not to be won on the battlefield. Remember the tactics we need are direct confrontation we must raise the cost of occupation," this official said recounting the conversation detailed in the March 24 intelligence report. Adding to American concerns, previous CIA reports on Iran claim that the country's Revolutionary Guard has procured several Saudi and Kuwaiti military uniforms, a tactic another intelligence official said was meant to cause confusion on the battlefield. The explosive intelligence from March 24 also confirmed the failure of U.S. and British diplomatic efforts in the last three months to convince Iran to remain neutral in the current conflict. On the weekend of March 16 the U.S. special envoy to the Iraqi opposition met with Iranian diplomats in Geneva, under the auspices of a U.N. grouping to discuss Afghanistan, to firm up an agreement from Tehran not to send proxy forces over their border or attempt to send agent provocateurs into Iraq during or after the conflict. The private statements from last month's meeting follow with many of the public statements from Iran's senior leaders in the run up to Operation Iraqi Freedom. On March 14 Hujjat al-Islam Hassan Rowhani, Iran's national security adviser, warned ominously in a public statement that there will be no "happy ending to the way the Americans have chosen" for their occupation of Iraq. "The U.S. presence in the Middle East is worse than Saddam's weapons of mass destruction," Hashemi Rafsanjani, the former Iranian president and current chairman of the country's powerful expediency board, said on Feb. 7. The intelligence has already hardened America's public reaction to Iran's intentions in the war. On March 28, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld opened his news briefing with a stark warning to the Baddr Brigades, the military wing of an Iranian opposition group that he said was "equipped and directed" by Iran's Revolutionary Guards. "The entrance into Iraq by military forces, intelligence personnel, or proxies not under the direct operational control of (Central Command Chairman) Gen. Franks will be taken as a potential threat to coalition forces," Rumsfeld said. He added that the United States would hold the Iranian government responsible for the actions of the Badr Brigades. Two days earlier when Secretary of State Colin Powell was asked whether Iranian proxies were becoming a problem for U.S. forces in the Iraq campaign, he said, "Not yet." Copyright © 2001-2003 United Press International Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramadas Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 This should be fun. BTW, I read an article the other day that said that the UK will have "nothing whatsoever to do with hostile action against Iran and Syria...in fact we're mending relationships with them". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underwater Posted April 3 Author Report Share Posted April 3 from what i have read the hawks want to steamroll anyone who harbors and promotes terrorism.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mahs Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Iran is a tricky situation.. Bush commented that the Iranian people especially the younger generations are adopting western values and don't see eye to eye with their gov't. I also rememebr reading that last election had a very low turnout and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamanei has been trying to stir anti americanism to gain support.He was also qouted in a speech in Iran stating the minute Iran has a nuclear weapon is the minute Isreal gets nuked and doesn't care if there is a nuclear exchange because he is willing to commit his whole country to martydom..How do we deal with this guy??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siceone Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 This could get really messy I hope to god Iran doesn't antagonize us. If you think the people of Iraq hate saddam you should see how the persians feel about the ayatollahs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr mahs Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 That's the game plan. Convince the societies that there leadership is crap and can't opress it's people anymore. Iraq will be the model the rest of the middle east will follow once liberation is complete and Iraq prospers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 Originally posted by mr mahs That's the game plan. Convince the societies that there leadership is crap and can't opress it's people anymore. Iraq will be the model the rest of the middle east will follow once liberation is complete and Iraq prospers i thought afghanistan was supposed to be the model... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siceone Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 Originally posted by bigpoppanils i thought afghanistan was supposed to be the model... How is it not the model that country is going through a rennisance maybe you would have realized that if you took time to look.. Im sorry that We can't give you a generations worth of progress in a month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 Originally posted by siceone How is it not the model that country is going through a rennisance maybe you would have realized that if you took time to look.. oh yes...women still being put in jail for committing adultery....wearing burquas (sp) out of fear of being rapedleaders of tribes exerting feudal control over the countrysideex-taliban leaders announcing guerrilla warfare against US troopsand local farmers are producing heroin againhow is that a rennaisance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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siceone Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 Originally posted by bigpoppanils oh yes...women still being put in jail for committing adultery....wearing burquas (sp) out of fear of being rapedleaders of tribes exerting feudal control over the countrysideex-taliban leaders announcing guerrilla warfare against US troopsand local farmers are producing heroin againhow is that a rennaisance? if I recall after the american revolution there was still slavery we did have intra fraternal conflicts and the farmers grow what pays beacause they are used to it what the fuck do you want instantaneous success? how long do you think it should take since you think it's such a faliure. how would you have done it better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 Originally posted by siceone if I recall after the american revolution there was still slavery we did have intra fraternal conflicts and the farmers grow what pays beacause they are used to it what the fuck do you want instantaneous success? how long do you think it should take since you think it's such a faliure. how would you have done it better? so i guess it isnt a rennaisance then?well according to the bush administraton, Iraq will only take a year to get completely rehabilitated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicman Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 Originally posted by mr mahs Iran is a tricky situation.. Bush commented that the Iranian people especially the younger generations are adopting western values and don't see eye to eye with their gov't. I also rememebr reading that last election had a very low turnout and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamanei has been trying to stir anti americanism to gain support.He was also qouted in a speech in Iran stating the minute Iran has a nuclear weapon is the minute Isreal gets nuked and doesn't care if there is a nuclear exchange because he is willing to commit his whole country to martydom..How do we deal with this guy??? last i heard was that fundamentalism was on the rise especially within the younger generation. iran has always been a very complex society even before the shah (or however you spell it) was overthrown. its been the most "wester friendly" state inthe region but also the one with the most radical fundamentalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siceone Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 Originally posted by bigpoppanils so i guess it isnt a rennaisance then?well according to the bush administraton, Iraq will only take a year to get completely rehabilitated look at the cities before the taliban fell and then after rome wasn't built in a day.. get some patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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