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Originally posted by rdancer

I really need some help in this field. Right now im only taking some multi vitamins but im eating like 5 of these horse pills everyday. I want to know what my options are. And I won't use CREATINE...

I used Myoblast for sometime which help with protein Synth I believe. Definately saw some gains from the product. I do know of any bad side effects. I am about to start using it again.

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Originally posted by wideskies

the problem with some of the high protein powders (if that's what you include in the definition of a supplement) as well as meal-replacement bars is that they can be high in sodium. :\

If you sweat alot (which you should if you work out) sodium is not really a factor so much because you sweat alot of it out.

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Clenbutrx - Its liquid ephedra. It tastes nasty as hell but it gives me a huge boost right before my workout. I love it.

Nitro-tech - I think it may be in my head, but whenever I am using this protein as opposed to anything other I think I see more results

GNC Multivitamin

Glucosamine & Chondroitin

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Originally posted by skince55

Clenbutrx - Its liquid ephedra. It tastes nasty as hell but it gives me a huge boost right before my workout. I love it.

How is this different from ephedra found in pill form? Same negative effects??

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Originally posted by skince55

Clenbutrx - Its liquid ephedra. It tastes nasty as hell but it gives me a huge boost right before my workout. I love it.

Nitro-tech - I think it may be in my head, but whenever I am using this protein as opposed to anything other I think I see more results

GNC Multivitamin

Glucosamine & Chondroitin

where can i find Clenbutrx? I need some ephedrine fast.

Is Nitro-tech really that good? I've never used it, but I guess I'm willing to give it a try.

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i switch up protien shakes about three a day ..the final one with creatine...take R-ala with my carb meals..prolly the most important thing i take....also multi V animal pak...and dextrose which isnt really a supp. but its a powder so ...

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Originally posted by rdancer

I really need some help in this field. Right now im only taking some multi vitamins but im eating like 5 of these horse pills everyday. I want to know what my options are. And I won't use CREATINE...

y no creatine????

if i u recall u wanted to get big, right?

not that u need creatine..but just wondering what u beef with it is

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Isopure protien when i'm trying to lean out some (liek now)

50g of protien, like 5 carbs and it mixes in 12oz of water and tastes like chocolate milk - best tasting stuff out there.

for trying to add on mass Ultimate Nutrition - Super Heavy Weight Gainer 1200 - 66g of protien when mixed with skim milk, throw the milk, powder, and 7 ice cubes in a blender and you got one of the best tasting MILK SHAKES ever - I swear people used to love the way these things tasted when i made them at my dorm...little did they know they were chugging down about 1200cals in that 'milk shake' they made me make for em loooolllll

Just started the following:

ALA-600mg with every meal

L-Carn- 3g / day

CLA - about 5 grams a day broken up

Steaks, and 96% lean burgers (minus the bun), grilled chicken...thats basicly my daily food intake.

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Originally posted by rdancer

It just adds water to muscle.

I don't think thats true. I put on 15 pounds using creatine and intragrowth spray(legal), and when I came off I lost about 5 pounds. I think it does add water, but it also helps you to lift more weight and recover faster which does add actual muscle growth.

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Originally posted by rdancer

It just adds water to muscle.

You will notice water retention. But it also helps build muscle. I am personally not a fan of it. I like lean muscle. Not water filled muscle. But if you just want to get a little bigger. Creatine is a good route.

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Im going for the natural fit look, just cause when people ask me what I do I could say JUST strength training. I have problems with my kidneys so I don't really want to intake nasty stuff... and who really knows if it safe...;)

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Originally posted by vicman

where can i find Clenbutrx? I need some ephedrine fast.

Is Nitro-tech really that good? I've never used it, but I guess I'm willing to give it a try.

http://www.nutritionwholesalers.com

It is the cheapest website I have found. They ship really fast(couple of days) and its $4.95 shipping regardless of how much stuff you get. Great site

I don't know if Nitro-tech is really that good. I think it is all in my head. It just seems like when I use it over other protein I am always a little leaner.

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Originally posted by skince55

http://www.nutritionwholesalers.com

It is the cheapest website I have found. They ship really fast(couple of days) and its $4.95 shipping regardless of how much stuff you get. Great site

I don't know if Nitro-tech is really that good. I think it is all in my head. It just seems like when I use it over other protein I am always a little leaner.

thansk dude, i'll give that web site a try. it's almost time to restock on stuff...and even though i'm getting off ephedrine, i still want some around to take before I head out partying icon14.gif

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Originally posted by Codica3

Oh, you heard that too?! :laugh: :laugh:

i swear that ad on FLEX magazine, the guy said he gained 27lbs of pure muscle and dropped from 9% to 4% body fat after one cycle on liquid drano :goofy: :laugh: :laugh:

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