Mystify Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 This is crazy.......please read the whole thing. ------------------------------Here is some more evidence of suspicious activities -Quote:Sources for all my facts can be found at the bottom, they are labeled according to subject. That having been said... Many have said the video was released noting how "convenient" it was that the tape had come out, just as the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal was in full swing. Not only did this take the abuse scandal off of headlines, but it swayed public opinion back against "those fucking Iraqis". Evidence 1) Most people replied by asserting that the execution occured as retribution to the abuse photos that had surfaced, but you have to ask yourself - do these terrorists, who are clearly capable of brainwashing people to the point where they are willing to kill and be killed for their beliefs, really have no concept of political tact? Here they are, the whole world screaming at the US for hypocrisy and injustice over these pictures, and they perform and publish this execution right in the heat of the scandal. In other words, these masters of brainwashing and spin and deception release a video of a despicable act just as the US, their sworn enemy, is being globally grilled. Does this make sense to you? 2) Second, I wonder what the standard issue chair is at Abu Ghraib prison? 3) Is it not interesting that the wall colour at Abu Ghraib prison is identical to that of the video? 4) Is it not also interesting that Berg is wearing the same orange jumpsuit worn by prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison? Sure, you say, perhaps he was kidnapped directly from the prison (as stupid as this sounds, anyway) - but then can you please explain (7)? 5) Is it also not interesting that the timecodes in the video jump back and forth? 6) Is it also not interesting that Berg did not exhibit any of the convulsions that typically accompany decapitation? http://www.ahsc.arizona.edu/uac/iacuc/rodents/avma.htm I am suggesting here that Berg was already dead when the decapitation occured (which accounts for 5). Before you go calling me crazy, please review the evidence; why did he not exhibit the convulsions that go hand in hand with decapitation (especially such an extended one)? 7) Is it not curious that the US denies contact with Berg, and yet his friends and family insist that he told them he was being held by the US? Huh? Why? 8) Another tape oddity - the men SPEAK RUSSIAN for several seconds. Not only that, but they speak Arabic with Russian accents. That's right, in the final seconds of the tape, one of the men speaks in Russian. Those here who understand russian (and have the stomach to view that final seconds of the video) can verify this. Those who speak Arabic will be able to verify that these men speak Arabic in Russian accents. 9) Finally (the physical evidence that will convince you in case you already aren't)... You will notice, in watching the video, that 6 times, a gold ring flashes on the hand of the executioner. What is the problem? Islam completely and utterly forbids men to wear gold rings. This fanatical muslim, willing to kill in a gutwrenching manner, and be killed for his beliefs, is violating one of the clear prohibitions of his religion? Really? DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO YOU? A few more points: 10) Nick Berg understands Arabic, but sits calmy while statement is read, waiting to be killed. Hmm? 11) One of the executioners is wearing Air Jordans. WHAT? 12) The "terrorists" signed the video, yet they wear hoods and masks. Why? 13) The "terrorists" have lily white hands. 14) The video time is in US Military English. What the hell? Conclusion As many has suspected, but have not had the time to build a solid case for, the execution of Nick Berg was performed by coalition interests (most likely independent Russian mercenaries) in order to dwarf the abuse pictures and sway public opinion back against the Iraqis and in support of the war by taking advantage of the emotional reaction we all experience when hearing of such an despicable act. The poor production quality (all the "curiosities" I have pointed out) of this video can be attributed to the haste in which it was made after the order was given to distract the public from the abuse scandal, and is in line with my conclusion. Again, before you attack my conclusion, attack my evidence. No matter how crazy you think this sounds, examine the evidence objectively and please try to deny a single thing I have said. If you cannot deny my evidence, you logically cannot deny my conclusion. Sources: Chair, wall, timecode, and : http://www.libertyforum.org/showfla...=-1#Post1469025 http://www.news24houston.com/conten...D=28906&SecID=2 Berg was in US custody: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast...ends/index.html Gold rings forbidden by Islam: http://www.khilafah.com/home/catego...ID=9529&TagID=2 http://www.google.com/search?q=gold...=utf-8&oe=utf-8 Was posted somewhere on another board and got interesting comments from both sides so lets see what you guys think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamme Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 This is crazy.......please read the whole thing. ------------------------------Here is some more evidence of suspicious activities -Quote:Sources for all my facts can be found at the bottom, they are labeled according to subject. That having been said... Many have said the video was released noting how "convenient" it was that the tape had come out, just as the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal was in full swing. Not only did this take the abuse scandal off of headlines, but it swayed public opinion back against "those fucking Iraqis". Evidence 1) Most people replied by asserting that the execution occured as retribution to the abuse photos that had surfaced, but you have to ask yourself - do these terrorists, who are clearly capable of brainwashing people to the point where they are willing to kill and be killed for their beliefs, really have no concept of political tact? Here they are, the whole world screaming at the US for hypocrisy and injustice over these pictures, and they perform and publish this execution right in the heat of the scandal. In other words, these masters of brainwashing and spin and deception release a video of a despicable act just as the US, their sworn enemy, is being globally grilled. Does this make sense to you? 2) Second, I wonder what the standard issue chair is at Abu Ghraib prison? 3) Is it not interesting that the wall colour at Abu Ghraib prison is identical to that of the video? 4) Is it not also interesting that Berg is wearing the same orange jumpsuit worn by prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison? Sure, you say, perhaps he was kidnapped directly from the prison (as stupid as this sounds, anyway) - but then can you please explain (7)? 5) Is it also not interesting that the timecodes in the video jump back and forth? 6) Is it also not interesting that Berg did not exhibit any of the convulsions that typically accompany decapitation? http://www.ahsc.arizona.edu/uac/iacuc/rodents/avma.htm I am suggesting here that Berg was already dead when the decapitation occured (which accounts for 5). Before you go calling me crazy, please review the evidence; why did he not exhibit the convulsions that go hand in hand with decapitation (especially such an extended one)? 7) Is it not curious that the US denies contact with Berg, and yet his friends and family insist that he told them he was being held by the US? Huh? Why? 8) Another tape oddity - the men SPEAK RUSSIAN for several seconds. Not only that, but they speak Arabic with Russian accents. That's right, in the final seconds of the tape, one of the men speaks in Russian. Those here who understand russian (and have the stomach to view that final seconds of the video) can verify this. Those who speak Arabic will be able to verify that these men speak Arabic in Russian accents. 9) Finally (the physical evidence that will convince you in case you already aren't)... You will notice, in watching the video, that 6 times, a gold ring flashes on the hand of the executioner. What is the problem? Islam completely and utterly forbids men to wear gold rings. This fanatical muslim, willing to kill in a gutwrenching manner, and be killed for his beliefs, is violating one of the clear prohibitions of his religion? Really? DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO YOU? A few more points: 10) Nick Berg understands Arabic, but sits calmy while statement is read, waiting to be killed. Hmm? 11) One of the executioners is wearing Air Jordans. WHAT? 12) The "terrorists" signed the video, yet they wear hoods and masks. Why? 13) The "terrorists" have lily white hands. 14) The video time is in US Military English. What the hell? Conclusion As many has suspected, but have not had the time to build a solid case for, the execution of Nick Berg was performed by coalition interests (most likely independent Russian mercenaries) in order to dwarf the abuse pictures and sway public opinion back against the Iraqis and in support of the war by taking advantage of the emotional reaction we all experience when hearing of such an despicable act. The poor production quality (all the "curiosities" I have pointed out) of this video can be attributed to the haste in which it was made after the order was given to distract the public from the abuse scandal, and is in line with my conclusion. Again, before you attack my conclusion, attack my evidence. No matter how crazy you think this sounds, examine the evidence objectively and please try to deny a single thing I have said. If you cannot deny my evidence, you logically cannot deny my conclusion. Sources: Chair, wall, timecode, and : http://www.libertyforum.org/showfla...=-1#Post1469025 http://www.news24houston.com/conten...D=28906&SecID=2 Berg was in US custody: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast...ends/index.html Gold rings forbidden by Islam: http://www.khilafah.com/home/catego...ID=9529&TagID=2 http://www.google.com/search?q=gold...=utf-8&oe=utf-8 Was posted somewhere on another board and got interesting comments from both sides so lets see what you guys think very very interesting mysty...i refused to watch the video before, but maybe now i will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystify Posted May 17 Author Report Share Posted May 17 very very interesting mysty...i refused to watch the video before, but maybe now i will...I refuse to watch it as well. I can't handle seeing things like that, and I know that if I watch it, the images will haunt me. But seriously, how crazy is all that?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullseye Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 interesting indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamme Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 I refuse to watch it as well. I can't handle seeing things like that, and I know that if I watch it, the images will haunt me. But seriously, how crazy is all that?????? pretty nutty indeed. im really curious about the russian accent thing (since i undertand arabic...and my brother-in-law understands russian...)if any of this is true..well...i really dont even know what i would think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcx04 Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 This is crazy.......please read the whole thing. Was posted somewhere on another board and got interesting comments from both sides so lets see what you guys thinkIts crazy in what sense? I havent watched the video yet, what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misk Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 wow.....i haven't seen it...nor do i think i will.....but if all that is true...then it's VERY INTERESTING .....like u say.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystify Posted May 17 Author Report Share Posted May 17 Its crazy in what sense? I havent watched the video yet, what do you think?It's crazy that there's tremendous evidence supporting the theory that this video is one big set up designed to sway our opinions on the war and Iraqis....it makes me sick to my stomach.You don't have to see the video. Did you read it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsamurai Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 I saw the video but it's so gruesome towards the end that I doubt I could watch it again. It's really interesting what this person wrote about it though. It's sad either way but it still doesn't change my opinion that we or any foreign nation had no business being in Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetie029 Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 That's just horrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baljeet Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 very very interesting mysty...i refused to watch the video before, but maybe now i will...Now was it really necessary to quote that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 Sources: Chair, wall, timecode, and : http://www.libertyforum.org/showfla...=-1#Post1469025 http://www.news24houston.com/conten...D=28906&SecID=2 Berg was in US custody: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast...ends/index.html Gold rings forbidden by Islam: http://www.khilafah.com/home/catego...ID=9529&TagID=2 http://www.google.com/search?q=gold...=utf-8&oe=utf-8 Was posted somewhere on another board and got interesting comments from both sides so lets see what you guys thinkhow can we review the evidence if every link turns out to be"page not found" or leads to the weather??? the person who wrote this puts a persausive argument however whenever the talking heads have anything news worthy that comes out theres always the conspiracy theorists not to far behind them...Now was it really necessary to quote that?lmao... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 go to the current events board..the article is posted there with photographical evidence. i refuse to form an opinion on this..although i wouldnt be surprised if it turns out to be a staged execution. discussing this further cheapens the fact that the family of Daniel Berg is without a son/brother... whatever the hell happened..it sux. im being reallly restrained here..i dont want this to turn into a political discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatman Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 how can we review the evidence if every link turns out to be"page not found" or leads to the weather??? the person who wrote this puts a persausive argument however whenever the talking heads have anything news worthy that comes out theres always the conspiracy theorists not to far behind them......took the words out of my mouth...i could provide counter-points to some of the above immediately but i rather not get into that ish right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystify Posted May 17 Author Report Share Posted May 17 Phatman....I would love to hear counter arguments on any of the points....when you can, please post them.I agree though - either way, that poor family still has to deal with the loss of their son/brother.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamme Posted May 17 Report Share Posted May 17 Now was it really necessary to quote that? eat $hit and die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funks0ul Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=218 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magilicuti Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 that is damn interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naughtybabe Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 That fucking video haunts me.. I wish I didnt watch it...I think about it and begin to get nauseous all over again Unless you have a strong stomach I suggest you dont watch it...cause I thought I be able to deal with it and I was wrong!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 so what do the consiparacy theorists think now~!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magilicuti Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 so what do the consiparacy theorists think now~!?good question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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