atf104 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 My quick classification...DT @ Vinyl: House, tech-house, deep house, garage, some hard trance and tribalJunior @ Twilo: Tribal, progressive house, trance, hard houseJP @ SF: Progressive house, commercial vocal house, hard house, trance, tech-houseTwilo Fridays-Digweed: Hard Trance, tech house, houseSasha: Trance, tech house, progressive trancePVD: progressive tranceDeep dish: house, deep house, tech houseCarl Cox: Tech house, techno, hard house.------------------"Children, come together, in the spirit, OF HOUSE" -Aaron Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueangel Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Sasha plays more dark/deep house at Twilo.PVD plays tech-house/ break beat tranceBlueAngel------------------"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."- Burton Hills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilly Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Adam...replace "hard house" with "detroit techno" for carl cox and you are on the money ..-J------------------Music is the answer...to your problems......smoknjilly@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubKid1111 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Bored arent you boy? Caly------------------~*A friend in needs a friend indeed a friend with weed (or E) is better*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
human101 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 LOL..you're gonna laugh at this atf...when i first saw the post i thought it read "music fag...." i was like, "WTF??" and checked it out...haha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divaliciouss Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 hey there jack ass,this was spoony dicks ideawhy you gotta be bittin' his shit,why dont ya go play hide the salami with that teenage freak you been bangin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonyd Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 I can't tell if you're defending me, or calling me a dick.Either way, I don't care. This is NOT biting my anything. It's all good. Now chill aight?About PVD, would anyone else go as far as to suggest he's been dropping nu-skool breaks?And how about Exit? There's a style of music there I have come to refer to as "NY Trance" when I'm being nice, "zipper trance" any other time. At satellite, they classify it under "Progressive Hard House". I find it neither progressive, nor House, though it is indeed hard. It's a very popular sound here now, but about 6 months after it's time IMHO.Exit = NY Trance (unless someone has a better definition)------------------keep it cutlary www.spoonyd.iwarp.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzadza Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 PVD does play break beats, or break beat trance as Blueangel called it. Though I'd say he plays only a bit of tech-house and more progressive trance.------------------May be one day I'll be an honest man... Up till now I do the best I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolimit Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 LOLThere is NO WAY Diggers play HARD TRANCE. Thank god for that!And some of those djs u listed don't just stick to one genre. They might play a little of everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kytracid Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Originally posted by Nolimit:LOLThere is NO WAY Diggers play HARD TRANCE. Thank god for that!And some of those djs u listed don't just stick to one genre. They might play a little of everything.Yeah Diggers is more like Deep House / Tech house------------------Save the Drama fo ya Mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslze Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 As my stars indicate, I am new school. So what the hell is the difference between "Deep" and "Tech" house? The samples? The bpm? This goes for all the other adjectives, ie progressive.------------------Mushrooms... how to see god, be god, and make god obsolete while listening to Pink Floyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa_boy Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 I have for a long time been opposed to the genrefication of music....one man's techno is another man's tech-house is another man's hard house is another man's hardcore is another man's rave track is another man's anthem is another man's bangin' track..........I think u see my pointFuck the labels! ------------------..................coming soon to a dancefloor near you------------------> boa_boy@yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueskygirl Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 I agreee with most of these DJ classifications, but have to go with boa boy here. It blows my mind how differently some of us will review the same shows.And yeah, PVD has been spinnin some breaks, but I'm not sure I'd classify him that way yet.My $0.02.Melissa------------------All for fun and fun for allmbdewey@yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atf104 Posted August 24 Author Report Share Posted August 24 Hey spooneyd... dont know whats up with the other dude...i thought youre idea was cool... Well most dj's i know call the "NY TRANCE" stuff... 'trance lite' or euro-pop commercial trance, because it really isnt trance. Im a house guy, but one unique thing about trance is it has no great history or milestone dj's like house, (DT, knuckles, DeVit, louie vega, etc.) so it evolves much faster and in different directions. If you listen to say, S&D a few years back vs. now, you can see where its gone, a much harder, actually more housey sound has come out of it. The melodic "epic" trance isnt really in anymore in europe and that has evolved into the commercial scene here. Oh yea...for the questioneers... tech house is house with a techno influenced beat to it... Case in points... ritchie hawtin, timo maas, almost everything on the bush label (go to satellite and search under bush), 'boots on the run' was a great techy track for you SF people. Deep house is more mellow, you dont hear much deep house at SF, its more 'emotional' and cant think of any real popular tracks off the top of my head. Jump in mac, you friggin house know it all! hehemy 0.02 of info.. -Adam ------------------"Children, come together, in the spirit, OF HOUSE" -Aaron Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueangel Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Tech house is techno with progressive house . . . faster pace . . . more beats.Deep house is slower pace, more bass . . . more vibrating feeling.BlueAngel------------------"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."- Burton Hills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilly Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 and then..there is "deep techno house" aka Alexi Delano, Jesper Dahlback..Aril Brikha..Everytime I go to listen on Satellite..they have a damn new classification..its ridiculous..."samba house" "deep trance" etcetc..classification sometimes is a waste of time..because everyone thinks diferently..Adam...did you ever find out what detroit techno is like I told ya??? You can't be a DJ and not do that..its like a sin..-J------------------Music is the answer...to your problems......smoknjilly@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ reign Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Centro - Fly on a thurs night - Deep house at it finest.......Subliminal is a well-recognized Deep House Label......------------------"Losers try. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atf104 Posted August 24 Author Report Share Posted August 24 I know detroit techno jilly... Just not my bag baby.. Although "I like it all".. well, except jungle...hehe, chicago house... Brutal bill... "I believe".. oohhhhh ------------------"Children, come together, in the spirit, OF HOUSE" -Aaron Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankie_pep Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 I don't want to come off sounding rude ... BUT PVD plays Tech-house, WHAT??????JP plays Tech-House, WHAT?????Do you guys what tech-house sounds like? Get C.Cox's CD - live @ the Crobar .. thats Tech-House ...------------------I love this house, this house of house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilly Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 sorry frankie...but yes..I have heard JP and PVD spin tech-house songs...its not their main style...but it does happen...actually..back in 98 JP used to spin some of the best tech-house imports I have ever heard...------------------Music is the answer...to your problems......smoknjilly@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atf104 Posted August 24 Author Report Share Posted August 24 I remember that jilly... i havent been to factory in ages...but it was actually good...not the best mixer, crashed mixes like crazy, but the tunes were good. Now its all pop trance, good for some people, just not me. Ill never forget hearing boots on the run for the first time on that system...whew ------------------"Children, come together, in the spirit, OF HOUSE" -Aaron Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueangel Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 frankie, it's true. PVD does spin break beat trance (nu-beat some might call it) with some tech-house. I've heard it a lot these last couple of live sets he's done including the last time he was at Twilo.I'm not too sure about JP though. I really don't listen to his stuff.BlueAngel------------------"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."- Burton Hills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankie_pep Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Originally posted by blueangel:frankie, it's true. PVD does spin break beat trance (nu-beat some might call it) with some tech-house. I've heard it a lot these last couple of live sets he's done including the last time he was at Twilo.I'm not too sure about JP though. I really don't listen to his stuff.BlueAngeli think i have every PVD live mix there is & not ONE TechHouse track on them ... even when i've heard him live ... Actually wait I'm sorry ,i'm listening to PVD live @ nikita and he just dropped on some techy sounding track ... but i wouldn't call pure TECH ... i think all DJs should play versitile ... I think Oakenfold is the most diverse Dj there is ... Who do you know that could start out with vocal eurohouse, then drop some jungle, then blast into some thumping progressive trance, where else you going to here programming like that?------------------I love this house, this house of house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonyd Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Okay, about the classification of music. It is possible, and it is necessary. Perhaps not for the a casual listener, but as a DJ, there's no avoiding it. There is only one sound that makes for deep house, just like techno.Not many people dig far enough into it to see what really makes those differences.House is House. It is defined by a beat pattern in 4/4 time.boom sis clap sis boom sis clap sis.Other styles defined by their percussion patter alone: breaks, jungle, hardcore, two step, garage, speed garage, latin...different subgenres of house, like deep, are defined by the sounds contained in the song, and often times the instruments that make those sounds.It is possible to make deep techno by overlaying the soft pads assiciated with deep house, over a techno beat. This is the kinda stuff you'll hear Paul Walker start a set with.There's stuff that's instrument specific, like the Acid sound (a sound originally produced with a 303), and the kicks in a bangin Chicago house track.Now let's analyse the term "Progressive". By the strictest definition, a progressive track does just that, it progresses. Song that start very minimal and add in instruments every 8 beats or so, build, break, and decay, are considered to be progressive. Taken a step further, songs that simply maintain the 8 beat and change pattern, in my books still fall under the "progressive" banner. A lot of Hard and Tech house is like this, hard trance as well.The term "Hard" is roughly denotes minimal to some extent. Songs that consist mainly of a beat, and sounds to accent, often no melody, often no bassline. Digweed does in fact play hard trance, regardless of what nolimit might think. Let's also keep in mind the motto of Palladin: Harder doesn't mean faster, harder means harder.okay, what did I miss? what did I get wrong?I'm tired of typing and have to do some more work, anyone else care to elaborate?------------------keep it cutlary www.spoonyd.iwarp.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atf104 Posted August 24 Author Report Share Posted August 24 how do you go from house to jungle? Personally i think oakenfold is way overpaid...just my opinion. He plays to make money, not for the love of the music it seams.------------------"Children, come together, in the spirit, OF HOUSE" -Aaron Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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