Guest web_norah Posted October 5 Report Share Posted October 5 http://www.vh1.com/shows/events/hip_hop_honors/2004i am not a fan of hip hop these days. however, i still enjoy R&B hip hop and early sounds of LL COol J and Run DMC, they were pioneers of this genre and brought a face to the sounds of hip hop to mainstream TV. check this documentary series, you might learn a thing or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Seb Posted October 5 Report Share Posted October 5 I think its interesting how they showed on last night's episode that Hip Hop originally started with the DJ and the MC was only an accesary. I think a lot of Hip Hop heads don't know that and its good for them to see them to be educated on how it all began. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest web_norah Posted October 5 Report Share Posted October 5 yeah thats why i brought this up. there is a lot to be learned about the world of hip hop, and you dont need to be a fan at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrzyC1414779017 Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 This is a GREAT documentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest demo909 Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 and ya don't stop!! 8)I've been watching this all week....It's amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze1414779018 Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 it is on again right now, a repeat of part two from last night with in depth interviews with Run DMC.It is so funny when DMC talsk about the first time he heard the original " WalkThis Way" and thought it was hill billy music, but he went on to repect and like it.Of course I loved the backfround info on the Beasties influence, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cosmigonon Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 I love the part when they start explaining how they began making longer versions of the songs so the music would seem endless; how they began cutting the good part of the song, or "break", and how they made it longer by smapling it over and over again. and also how there waas this guy who would only play anothe r record after the other, and this other dj actually started matching the beat of the next record to that of the prior one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest web_norah Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 yesterday's was scary the birth of gangsta rap and NWA, they were the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cosmigonon Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 i was just wondering... why didn't they show MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice and Tone Loc? ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest web_norah Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 i was just wondering... why didn't they show MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice and Tone Loc? ???uhm probably because all of them were mostly either one hit wonders, over-hyped, had no record label of their own and werent innovative....the only innovative thing about Hammer were his funny pants and the fact that he spoke of Oakland, CA. NWA, Snoop, and Run DMC / Beastie Boys, Russell Simmons they all founded successful record labels and created a rapping style that was copied and followed ....they set the tone and really put hip hop in the forefront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cosmigonon Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 i was just wondering... why didn't they show MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice and Tone Loc? ???uhm probably because all of them were mostly either one hit wonders, over-hyped, had no record label of their own and werent innovative....the only innovative thing about Hammer were his funny pants and the fact that he spoke of Oakland, CA. NWA, Snoop, and Run DMC / Beastie Boys, Russell Simmons they all founded successful record labels and created a rapping style that was copied and followed ....they set the tone and really put hip hop in the forefront.Yeah, but still in those days the hammer and vanilla were HUGE, they were everywhere, so I don't think it's fair, just because they're the butt of jokes today, it doesn't mean they were the "in" thing, back in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest web_norah Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 they may have been huge, so is Nelly and 50 Cent but this documentary is a HISTORY of hip hop. not who was huge. and if you feel so strong about them being on the documentary, write an email to the producers :i just dont see them being part of the history of hip hop. i've said this before, you can sell 10000000 records but that doesnt mean you're going to be part of a bigger movement in music....or change the course of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cosmigonon Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 They were a big part of hip-hop going mainstream. Nobody wants to remember them , but everybody was wearing the same clothes, the same haircuts, dancing the same way everywhere, only they're ashamed of it and prefer to just ignore it, hoping it will go away... :-X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest web_norah Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 if you feel so strongly about them being on the documentary, write an email to the producers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cosmigonon Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 if you feel so strongly about them being on the documentary, write an email to the producerswhat are they gonna do, make a new one? :I don't want them to, I'm just making a comment about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest web_norah Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 i produce a show and believe it or not, when someone offers something constructive and valid, i listen for future shows. and since none of your choices were taken into consideration - there must be a reason *why* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LeVeL Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 I just love how they spoke about Rakim, that man there deserves a lot of credit. Also how they spoke about 2Pac that man led the way to what Hip Hop has become today he did better,fresher, with innovative lyriks that made you believe!!Ever since Pac died Hip Hop is not the same to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ddg Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 all eyez on me is the greatest double disc of all time...outkast and 2pac are the only rap that i will throw into the cd player.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LeVeL Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 all eyez on me is the greatest double disc of all time...outkast and 2pac are the only rap that i will throw into the cd player....Yeah dogg...I let both discs ride on "the All Eyez On Me LP" and I let all the songs jam. But his better work was the ones we never got to really hear, if that man would of been alive who knows what direction the Rap Game would of headed.I also love Big's "Ready to Die LP" thats another slammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest web_norah Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 Ready to Die LPnow we're talking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest durrtylexx Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 I was never a Pac fan..I only liked Hail Mary, Dear Momma and Shoot em up...I was more into Biggie Pac was ok..I have never liked thugged west coast rap..except for N.W.A or Compton's Most Wanted..I grew up listening to Rakim, The Pharcyde, Tribe, Del the Phunky Homosapian, KRS-1, All native tounges..Rap died once Puffy exploited it..then my heart broke.. :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LeVeL Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 I was never a Pac fan..I only liked Hail Mary, Dear Momma and Shoot em up...I was more into Biggie Pac was ok..I have never liked thugged west coast rap..except for N.W.A or Compton's Most Wanted..I grew up listening to Rakim, The Pharcyde, Tribe, Del the Phunky Homosapian, KRS-1, All native tounges..Rap died once Puffy exploited it..then my heart broke.. :'( Man what a shame...there are a lot of jams that Pac sung that weren't thugged out....the man just spoke the truth of his life. I dont think nobody connected with his listeners enough like Tupac did. Party jams are party jams but what Tupac's songs were so good that you can listen to them when your up donw and anywhere in between. There are there for you to pick too many hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ddg Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 all eyez on me is the greatest double disc of all time...outkast and 2pac are the only rap that i will throw into the cd player....Yeah dogg...I let both discs ride on "the All Eyez On Me LP" and I let all the songs jam. But his better work was the ones we never got to really hear' date=' if that man would of been alive who knows what direction the Rap Game would of headed.I also love Big's "Ready to Die LP" thats another slammer.[/quote']honestly..never was a huge fan of biggie..my fav track of his was with bone thugs..notorious thugs..and cuz its uptempo....no one IMO could go with the beat like 2pac though...fast or slow....shorty wanna be a thug...... wonder why the call you bitch.... :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest durrtylexx Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 I was more into The Roots, Common, Gang Starr, Company Flow, EPMD,Black Moon, Smith & Wesson groups with real lyrics..PAC was just for wanna be thugs, dont get me wrong he could spit and had lyrics, but what he spoke about was not what I was into..I was never into popping Crystal and I didnt grow up in the ghetto..Lyrics and beats were what I cared for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LeVeL Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 shorty wanna be a thug...... wonder why the call you bitch.... :oahhhh you brought some memories dogg....I remember dedicating, " i wonder why they call you bitch" to some honey back in the days.But seriously D you have to listen to that "ready to Die LP" especially number 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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