V. Barbarino Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 MINA, Saudi Arabia — Thousands of Muslim pilgrims rushing to complete a symbolic stoning ritual during the hajj tripped over luggage Thursday, causing a crush in which at least 345 people were killed, the Interior Ministry said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 it sounds so crazy its prolly true ive seen videos of those crowds its nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest tres-b Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Muslims are religion's version of soccer hooligans.Dumb but Deadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest saintjohn Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 It is the Will of Allah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jbit Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 The worst stampede happened in 1990, when 1,426 pilgrims were trampled to death.More recently, 251 pilgrims died two years ago in a stampede during the stone-throwing ritual. A stampede in 2003 killed 36 pilgrims, most of them en route to the devil-stoning ritual, conducted outside Mecca. In 2001, a stampede at the same ritual killed 35.Makes running with the bulls in Pamplona seem safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mursa Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Muslims are religion's version of soccer hooligans.Dumb but Deadly. : ignorance is bliss . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tres-b Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Muslims are religion's version of soccer hooligans.Dumb but Deadly. : ignorance is bliss . Bliss this... ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest musicalmissionary Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Muslims are religion's version of soccer hooligans.Dumb but Deadly.Good one... and Republicans are the political version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tres-b Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Muslims are religion's version of soccer hooligans.Dumb but Deadly.Good one... and Republicans are the political version.You are absolutely right. The real geniuses are out in Hollywood acting, painting or just being famous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan2772 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 i just got my ticket, i'm going next yearhajj 2007 here i come!!!! ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V. Barbarino Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 Ya know, it occured to me in the last few days why the US is the biggest super power and largest economy.. We are simply smarter, listen to the Alito hearings then watch the news to see how muslims died by the hundreds due to luggage.. Say what you will, the guys who wrote our consititution are smart mofos while going to a stoning in Saudio Arabia could cost you not only your luggage but your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drlogic Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 It is the Will of Allah.lolLOLLOLLOLLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan2772 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Ya know, it occured to me in the last few days why the US is the biggest super power and largest economy.. We are simply smarter, listen to the Alito hearings then watch the news to see how muslims died by the hundreds due to luggage.. Say what you will, the guys who wrote our consititution are smart mofos while going to a stoning in Saudio Arabia could cost you not only your luggage but your life.totally agree. our civilization is far more advanced. sad but true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drlogic Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Good one... and Republicans are the political version.lolfunny? seems more like desperate, out-of-power liberal democrats fit the description much better. Just turn on your t.v. and look who comes across as desperate and unhinged? Answer: Washington Democrats! LOLLA,LA,LA LOOOOOOOSERS! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan2772 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 you really are a shmuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tres-b Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Ya know, it occured to me in the last few days why the US is the biggest super power and largest economy.. We are simply smarter, listen to the Alito hearings then watch the news to see how muslims died by the hundreds due to luggage.. Say what you will, the guys who wrote our consititution are smart mofos while going to a stoning in Saudio Arabia could cost you not only your luggage but your life.totally agree. our civilization is far more advanced. sad but true+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drlogic Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 i just got my ticket, i'm going next yearhajj 2007 here i come!!!! ;DBUCKLE UP BABY!LALALALALALALALALALALALALABring your bed sheets, tons of rolls and skip the deoderant.Looks like ULTRAFEST... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trancepriest Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 I have to say something is wrong with those Muslims... getting trampled to death at a stoning ritual is kind of ironic. These people get trampled every year and they are still cool with it. I think its kind of funny actually. ;D You can't have a good hajj without a good amount of trampling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dahzel Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 what a horrible way to die. ppl just stepping on you and paying no mind. just a few months ago, around a 1,000 ppl were killed in a stampede near a bridge and in the water in iraq because somebody yelled out," suicide bomber". sad shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest trancepriest Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 MINA, Saudi Arabia -- Saudi Arabia is blaming unruly pilgrims for the crush that killed at least 345 people in the Hajj, but many Muslims say better security could have averted the worst disaster to mar the ritual in 16 years.Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul-Aziz, as well as the kingdom's interior minister, said the tragedy was caused by pilgrims defying rules by taking their belongings with them and ignoring advice to perform the ritual throughout the day."It pains us that so many people died, but we must point out that the security forces averted many more disasters from happening and saved many lives," the state news agency SPA quoted Interior Minister Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz as saying.The crush, like others in the past, occurred Thursday during the stone-throwing ritual in which the pilgrims stone a symbolic devil. It took place at a wide bridge over the desert plain of Mina, near Mecca.Health Minister Hamad al-Maneh told Saudi TV that 289 others were injured and taken to hospital. Most of these were not seriously hurt and were released from the hospital.Video of the scene showed dozens of bodies lying on the ground, covered with sheets and blankets. (Watch the stream of ambulances and medics among the dead -- 3:32)Many pilgrims insisted on following Prophet Mohammad's example of stoning after noon prayers instead of staggering the ritual throughout the day as some clerics recommended.But some pilgrims said the authorities had failed to impose their own rules on the ritual, which has seen similar deadly incidents in the past.The worst crush happened in 1990, when 1,426 pilgrims were trampled to death.More recently, 251 pilgrims died two years ago in a stampede during the stone-throwing ritual. A crush in 2003 killed 36 pilgrims, most of them en route to the devil-stoning ritual, conducted outside Mecca. In 2001, a stampede at the same ritual killed 35."There seemed to be more security forces this year but they were not very organized or had any plan," 28-year-old Jihad, from Egypt, told Reuters."Security forces should have concentrated their efforts on removing squatters. This year, they seemed to let them slide by," said Yasser Bakir, 39, also from Egypt.Witnesses also said the tragedy was caused as the flow of pilgrims entering and leaving the Jamarat bridge clashed, ignoring instructions on huge noticeboards, loudspeakers and pamphlets on how to perform the rites."What's the reason for what happened, that's the question that must be answered," wrote columnist Raqiya Shabib in the Saudi-owned al-Hayat newspaper."For this not to happen again the organization has got to be rethought at the Jamarat area in particular."More tragediesSaudi officials say little could have been done to prevent a crush during the annual Hajj pilgrimage in which 345 people died.Interior ministry spokesman Maj Gen Mansour al-Turki told the BBC that the dangers would only increase if crowd controls were tightened further."People insist that they want to finish their Hajj in the way they think is right and you have a limited effect in using policemen to control people in this regard," he said."You cannot really control them by force because if you do probably you will increase the problem because you will have people pushing you. We had so many police officers today who were injured in this situation."One Islamic academic warned the crush would not be the last tragedy to strike the Hajj pilgrimage.The director of the Institute for the Study of the Arab World and Islam, based in Edinburgh, said it only took one or two people to spark a stampede at the event.Professor Yasir Suleiman told the Press Association: "Will this be prevented in the future? I don't think so."More Muslims than ever before are fulfilling the fifth pillar of Islam and making the pilgrimage to Mecca because they are wealthier and transport is easier."So the authorities would never be able to restrict the numbers going to the Hajj. They're damned if they do and damned if they don't."And if they put more police there to organize things better, they would be accused of taking up space that could have been for pilgrims."Professor Suleiman said what all pilgrims must do is act sensibly and think of safety to avoid further tragedies."Unfortunately, as in this instance, people still ignore official warnings not to bring luggage to the Jamarat Bridge, which caused pilgrims to trip and led to the crush," he continued."You get other people who wear flimsy flip-flops and when one comes off they bend down to try and pick it up and start shoving and that's it."It only takes one or two stupid people out of a couple of million to cause a tragedy like this." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BIOBLIZZARD Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 They should have had 2 separate lines, one to get beaten to death with a rock, and the other to have ‘Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves trample your ass to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMT Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 i just got my ticket, i'm going next yearhajj 2007 here i come!!!! ;Dhahahahahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMT Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 I have to say something is wrong with those Muslims... getting trampled to death at a stoning ritual is kind of ironic. These people get trampled every year and they are still cool with it. I think its kind of funny actually. ;D You can't have a good hajj without a good amount of trampling.lolthis thread is funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slamminshaun Posted January 14 Report Share Posted January 14 It's all Bush's fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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