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SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- North Korea would respond to a pre-emptive U.S. military attack with an "annihilating strike and a nuclear war," the state-run media said Monday, heightening anti-U.S. rhetoric amid close scrutiny of its missile program.

The Korean Central News Agency, citing an unidentified Rodong Sinmun newspaper "analyst," accused the United States of increasing military pressure on the isolated communist state and basing new spy planes on the Korean Peninsula.

The North Korean threat of retaliation, which is often voiced by its state-controlled media, comes amid U.S. official reports that Pyongyang has shown signs of preparing for a test of a long-range missile. North Korea claims it has the right to such a launch.

On Friday, Pyongyang accused the United States of driving the situation on the Korean Peninsula "to the brink of war," and said it is fully prepared to counter any U.S. aggression.

Monday's report accused Washington of escalating military pressure on the country with war exercises, a massive arms buildup and aerial espionage by basing new spy planes in South Korea.

"This is a grave military provocation and blackmail to the DPRK, being an indication that the U.S. is rapidly pushing ahead in various fields with the extremely dangerous war moves," the dispatch said.

"The army and people of the DPRK are now in full preparedness to answer a pre-emptive attack with a relentless annihilating strike and a nuclear war with a mighty nuclear deterrent," the report said.

DPRK stands for the North's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

North Korea routinely accuses the U.S. of aerial espionage, issuing a tally of such flights at the end of every month. The U.S. military doesn't comment, although it acknowledges monitoring North Korean military activity.

Washington and Japan have said in recent weeks that spy satellite images show North Korea has taken steps to prepare a long-range Taepodong-2 missile for a test-launch.

Estimates for the range of the missile vary widely, but at least one U.S. study said it could be able to reach parts of the United States with a light payload.

Speculation that Pyongyang could fire the missile has waned in recent days since the country's top ally and a major source of its energy supplies, China, reportedly urged North Korea not to go ahead with the test.

Meanwhile, a South Korean government official said Seoul is considering buying U.S. shipborne SM-2 missiles to bolster its missile-defense system.

The move is the latest by South Korea and Japan to strengthen their defenses amid signs of the North Korean missile test. Seoul announced last week the purchase of Patriot interceptor missiles from Germany.

SM-2 missiles, however, are reportedly effective against cruise missiles and at striking aircraft but would not be able to hit a long-range missile.

"I understand that we have requested information" on the missiles for purchase, said Park Sung-soo, an official at the Defense Acquisition Program Administration, without elaborating.

The U.S. Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of the possible sale last week, according to its Web site. The order would be for 48 SM-2 Block IIIB tactical standard missiles and associated equipment and training.

The agency estimated the cost at $111 million.

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Ladies and Gentlemen.... fellow liberals. We are called unpatriotic because we are against a war that was started in the search of Weapons of Mass Destruction. Yet no Weapons of Mass Destruction was found. But here we have a country that has nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles thats threatening to use them against us. Now perhaps I'm going insane here... perhaps i've gone completeley mad... but shouldn't we focus more on North Korea? If the premises of the war with Iraq was WMD... then shouldn't North Korea be a greater threat?

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If the premises of the war with Iraq was WMD... then shouldn't North Korea be a greater threat?

Well said...If that premise were completely true, then you might have a point. Unfortunately(for you), WMD was one of many reason why congress voted to authorize war. Although, I'll give you that it was one of the more emphasized reasons.

I'll end this w/ a John Kerry quote from a speech he gave @ Georgtown University in Jan. 2003. Enjoy: ;)

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. He miscalculated an eight-year war with Iran. He miscalculated the invasion of Kuwait. He miscalculated America's response to that act of naked aggression. He miscalculated the result of setting oilrigs on fire. He miscalculated the impact of sending scuds into Israel and trying to assassinate an American President. He miscalculated his own military strength. He miscalculated the Arab world's response to his misconduct. And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction."

Who'd you vote for again? Riggggghhhhht!!!!!!!

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Ladies and Gentlemen.... fellow liberals. We are called unpatriotic because we are against a war that was started in the search of Weapons of Mass Destruction. Yet no Weapons of Mass Destruction was found. But here we have a country that has nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles thats threatening to use them against us. Now perhaps I'm going insane here... perhaps i've gone completeley mad... but shouldn't we focus more on North Korea? If the premises of the war with Iraq was WMD... then shouldn't North Korea be a greater threat?

No you are completely wrong. THE SAME AGENCY that gave faulty intelligence reports about WMD and facilities that were constructing materials for WMDs in Iraq are saying that North Korea doesn't have the ability to put a warhead on top of their long range missle..LOL

Now why whould someone threaten a nuclear war with us if they were not capable of doing it? To get more attention so that we'll initate a pre-emptive strike against the regime in North Korea?

I don't know about you guys but if even if I were some crazy MOFO I would not threaten the US with Nuclear War unless I had the ability to carry out my threats...

I don't get it.

Kim Jong Ill has a ballistic missile that can carry who knows what which can hit, Anchorage, Seattle or San Fransisco. I guess the Bush Admin is waiting for North Korea to be capable of striking a red state (conservative city) before they act..LOL

They're like screw Seattle and S.F. We can do without a bunch of granola loving liberals..Now if the damm missle from N.K can strike Boise Idaho then we have a problem..

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No you are completely wrong. THE SAME AGENCY that gave faulty intelligence reports about WMD and facilities that were constructing materials for WMDs in Iraq are saying that North Korea doesn't have the ability to put a warhead on top of their long range missle..LOL

Now why whould someone threaten a nuclear war with us if they were not capable of doing it? To get more attention so that we'll initate a pre-emptive strike against the regime in North Korea?

I don't know about you guys but if even if I were some crazy MOFO I would not threaten the US with Nuclear War unless I had the ability to carry out my threats...

I don't get it.

Kim Jong Ill has a ballistic missile that can carry who knows what which can hit' date=' Anchorage, Seattle or San Fransisco. I guess the Bush Admin is waiting for North Korea to be capable of striking a red state (conservative city) before they act..LOL

They're like screw Seattle and S.F. We can do without a bunch of granola loving liberals..Now if the damm missle from N.K can strike Boise Idaho then we have a problem..

:P

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LOL.. ;D We are living in interesting damn crazy times.

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No you are completely wrong. THE SAME AGENCY that gave faulty intelligence reports about WMD and facilities that were constructing materials for WMDs in Iraq are saying that North Korea doesn't have the ability to put a warhead on top of their long range missle..LOL

Now why whould someone threaten a nuclear war with us if they were not capable of doing it? To get more attention so that we'll initate a pre-emptive strike against the regime in North Korea?

I don't know about you guys but if even if I were some crazy MOFO I would not threaten the US with Nuclear War unless I had the ability to carry out my threats...

I don't get it.

Kim Jong Ill has a ballistic missile that can carry who knows what which can hit, Anchorage, Seattle or San Fransisco. I guess the Bush Admin is waiting for North Korea to be capable of striking a red state (conservative city) before they act..LOL

They're like screw Seattle and S.F. We can do without a bunch of granola loving liberals..Now if the damm missle from N.K can strike Boise Idaho then we have a problem..

:P

LOL.. ;D We are living in interesting damn crazy times.

Who needs intelligence when the dam target is screaming threates of nuclear war?? LOL..

LOOK U.S WE HAVE WMD's. WE ARE FUELING A MISSILE THAT CAN HIT THE WEST COAST OF THE U.S.. COME AND GET US!!!

Oh wait...should we also say that we have 500 shells of 30 year old mustard gas.. Maybe then you'll take us seriously and roll in the tanks from your bases in South Korea and come get us!! ....

BTW we also have oil here to that you don't know about!

And to top it off. We have been holding the real Garth Brooks hostage since 95'. The one touring is a clone..

oohhh I bet your made now Bush Country!! Is that enough for you to PAY SOME DAMM ATTENTION TO US??

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Who needs intelligence when the dam target is screaming threates of nuclear war?? LOL..

LOOK U.S WE HAVE WMD's. WE ARE FUELING A MISSILE THAT CAN HIT THE WEST COAST OF THE U.S.. COME AND GET US!!!

Oh wait...should we also say that we have 500 shells of 30 year old mustard gas.. Maybe then you'll take us seriously and roll in the tanks from your bases in South Korea and come get us!! ....

BTW we also have oil here to that you don't know about!

And to top it off. We have been holding the real Garth Brooks hostage since 95'. The one touring is a clone..

oohhh I bet your made now Bush Country!! Is that enough for you to PAY SOME DAMM ATTENTION TO US??

Dude you should stop with your unpatriotic banter... everyone knows that is perfectly OK for the North Koreans to launch a nuclear missile at us. It's OK man. No one should be worried about real Weapons of Mass Destruction. It's only the false ones that are really scary.

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There's the dilemma. People thought Iraq had WMDs and as they had no capability of launching them against the US or its Allies, Iraq was an ideal country to attack. We know that N Korea has WMDs and the systems capable of delivering them, hence the reluctance to do anything about it.

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There's the dilemma. People thought Iraq had WMDs and as they had no capability of launching them against the US or its Allies, Iraq was an ideal country to attack. We know that N Korea has WMDs and the systems capable of delivering them, hence the reluctance to do anything about it.

And that they are threatening us with nuclear war.

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There's the dilemma. People thought Iraq had WMDs and as they had no capability of launching them against the US or its Allies, Iraq was an ideal country to attack. We know that N Korea has WMDs and the systems capable of delivering them, hence the reluctance to do anything about it.

And that they are threatening us with nuclear war.

In response to a pre-emptive attack, which is understandable.

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In response to a pre-emptive attack, which is understandable.

No wonder why Iran is rushing to get the bomb... America doesn't fuck with strong nations. If your nation is weak America will attack you... rape and kill your women and sodomize your men. After Iran gets the bomb... then they can threaten us.. it will be understandable then.

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Now why whould someone threaten a nuclear war with us if they were not capable of doing it? To get more attention so that we'll initate a pre-emptive strike against the regime in North Korea?

Actually Terry,,,,this is an easy question to answer. Recent history cleary indicates that N.Korea has consistently threatened the West and/or it's allies(ie. S. Korea/Japan) when they need something. That's the way they operate. N.Korea's largest export is missles. They don't have much else. They're dependant on foreign aid. Rather than feed his people w/ the sale of missles, he just spends the money making more missles/weapons. Then he pretends to be blowing a gasket(essentially, screaming for the worlds attn. to say,,"HEY LOOK @ ME,,,I'M RELEVANT,,,LOOK AT ME...WHAT ABOUT ME?" Then, the world gets together and brokers a deal w/ N.Korea and he shuts up for a few years,,,,,,Then he does it all over again. Look it up. His tactics are nothing new. What might be new is his claim of tweaking his booster rockets for long range strike capablities.

In the 90's he did the same thing and our previous admin agreed to give him Nuke technology for producing energy w/ the promise he would not try to weaponize(ie. Madeline Albright). Well, gosh-golly-gee...He lied.

I think it's more barking and essentially begging for attn. to be considered relevant. Truth be told, he knows all it will take is one missle launched and N.Korea gets flattened by South Korea and America's help.

But I do see where some critics might wanna act concerned and "hawkish" for a possibility they wish would be true.

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Now why whould someone threaten a nuclear war with us if they were not capable of doing it? To get more attention so that we'll initate a pre-emptive strike against the regime in North Korea?

Actually Terry,,,,this is an easy question to answer. Recent history cleary indicates that N.Korea has consistently threatened the West and/or it's allies(ie. S. Korea/Japan) when they need something. That's the way they operate. N.Korea's largest export is missles. They don't have much else. They're dependant on foreign aid. Rather than feed his people w/ the sale of missles, he just spends the money making more missles/weapons. Then he pretends to be blowing a gasket(essentially, screaming for the worlds attn. to say,,"HEY LOOK @ ME,,,I'M RELEVANT,,,LOOK AT ME...WHAT ABOUT ME?" Then, the world gets together and brokers a deal w/ N.Korea and he shuts up for a few years,,,,,,Then he does it all over again. Look it up. His tactics are nothing new. What might be new is his claim of tweaking his booster rockets for long range strike capablities.

In the 90's he did the same thing and our previous admin agreed to give him Nuke technology for producing energy w/ the promise he would not try to weaponize(ie. Madeline Albright). Well, gosh-golly-gee...He lied.

I think it's more barking and essentially begging for attn. to be considered relevant. Truth be told, he knows all it will take is one missle launched and N.Korea gets flattened by South Korea and America's help.

But I do see where some critics might wanna act concerned and "hawkish" for a possibility they wish would be true.

Since this is the case and has been the case with North Korea arming, selling and producing more weapons and potentially selling these weapons to terrorists such as our Osama Bin Baldwin friend then why do we still continue to sit at the table with North Korea? This has been going on with North Korea about the same amount of time we were fiddling with Sadam Hussien, yet Sadam was the one who got 'Operation Desert This and That' and not Kim Jon Ill..

Shouldn't we show the world that we are consistant with our policies when dealing with leaders who would potentially be creating WMDs? Don't you think it's time for operation 'Chop Stick' or something?

Clearly at this point in time the capabilities of North Korea are far superior to that of the Iraqi military pre 1991 and post 9/11. We know they have weapons, we know they constantly threaten the west. South Korea is one of out allies in the Pacific Rim and they are under contsant threat from its neighbor to the North. So why isn't Bush calling in the cavalry and pressing more and more to absolve this obvious threat?

Wouldn't we want to send Iran the proper message before they think they can get away with producing and enriching nuclear materials?

You say that N.K builds missiles then sells missiles and takes the profit from their missile sales and builds more missiles. I'm also sure that over the course of the last decade or so they have been able to produce weapons with more advanced and dangerous capabilities right?

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This is where a space denfense system would come in handy. Line them up and program an eraser pattern over North Korea! Bye Bye Lil Kim! Not even the Chinease like this guy.

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This is where a space denfense system would come in handy. Line them up and program an eraser pattern over North Korea! Bye Bye Lil Kim! Not even the Chinease like this guy.

The Chinese love North Korea... I'm not sure if you are aware of a little thing called the Korean War. Yup the war where China helped North Korea to fight against us and even sent troops to fight us. They use North Korea as a block against greater western influence in the region.

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this is all part of the illuminati's master plan for global domination ;)

Or the Illuminati of the Illuminati's plan.. :P Every group no matter how elite they are always have elite within them..
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This is where a space denfense system would come in handy. Line them up and program an eraser pattern over North Korea! Bye Bye Lil Kim! Not even the Chinease like this guy.

The Chinese love North Korea... I'm not sure if you are aware of a little thing called the Korean War. Yup the war where China helped North Korea to fight against us and even sent troops to fight us. They use North Korea as a block against greater western influence in the region.

No they don't. The Korean War was 50 years ago. The entire political landscape of China has changed to the point where they are more aligned with the US on an economical scale than any sociopolitical ideal. The economic success of China has actually kept Socialism alive there as well as fostered the growth of both Democratic ideals and Capitalism. China had a good relationship with Kim's father and previous leadership in keeping Korea as a semi-puppet state. But even they think Kim is unstable and a danger to the world, and that he certainly threatens any current and emerging relationships China has made with the international community.

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No they don't. The Korean War was 50 years ago. The entire political landscape of China has changed to the point where they are more aligned with the US on an economical scale than any sociopolitical ideal. The economic success of China has actually kept Socialism alive there as well as fostered the growth of both Democratic ideals and Capitalism. China had a good relationship with Kim's father and previous leadership in keeping Korea as a semi-puppet state. But even they think Kim is unstable and a danger to the world, and that he certainly threatens any current and emerging relationships China has made with the international community.

If China is so aligned with the international community in regards to North Korea... how comes they supply North Korea with two billion dollars worth of aid annually and furthermore unwilling to use that aid as leverage in negotiations?

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Yo Iraqpriest, should we invade N. Korea? Yes or no answer will suffice. When we're done, should we invade Iran? Yes or no will suffice again. Thanks.

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Yo Iraqpriest' date=' should we invade N. Korea? Yes or no answer will suffice. When we're done, should we invade Iran? Yes or no will suffice again. Thanks.

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No.

1. The solution for North Korea is to restrict trade with China. A move that will also hinder China's growth into a further super power and potentially destroy their communist leadership... hopefully creating a true democracy.

2. The solution for Iran is to let Israel worry about their own damn security. I'm sure they can handle Iran by themselves. In the mean time we increase research funding on alternative energy, lower our energy consumption and if we have to increase nuclear power facilities and oil drilling in environmentally sensitive areas if we have to.

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No they don't. The Korean War was 50 years ago. The entire political landscape of China has changed to the point where they are more aligned with the US on an economical scale than any sociopolitical ideal. The economic success of China has actually kept Socialism alive there as well as fostered the growth of both Democratic ideals and Capitalism. China had a good relationship with Kim's father and previous leadership in keeping Korea as a semi-puppet state. But even they think Kim is unstable and a danger to the world, and that he certainly threatens any current and emerging relationships China has made with the international community.

If China is so aligned with the international community in regards to North Korea... how comes they supply North Korea with two billion dollars worth of aid annually and furthermore unwilling to use that aid as leverage in negotiations?

Why does the US still provide OIL and other monetary aid to North Korea? Both answers are the same and are basics in international politics for third world nations.

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Why does the US still provide OIL and other monetary aid to North Korea? Both answers are the same and are basics in international politics for third world nations.

Since 1995, the U.S. has provided over $1 billion in foreign assistance to the

Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea (DPRK, also known as North Korea),

about 60% of which has taken the form of food aid, and about 40% in the form of

energy assistance channeled through the Korean Peninsula Energy Development

Organization (KEDO). Additionally, the Bush Administration has proposed offering

North Korea broad economic development assistance in exchange for Pyongyang

verifiably dismantling its nuclear program and cooperating on other security-related

issues. U.S. aid to North Korea has been controversial since its inception, and the

controversy has been intimately linked to the larger debate over the most effective

strategy for dealing with the DPRK. The North Korean Human Rights Act, (passed

by the 108th Congress as H.R. 4011, P.L. 108-333) for instance, which includes

hortatory language calling for “significant increases†above current levels of U.S.

support for humanitarian assistance to be conditioned upon “substantial

improvements†in transparency, monitoring, and access. Pyongyang has the Act as

evidence of the United States’ “hostile policy†toward North Korea, and has used it

as justification to suspend its participation in the six party talks to resolve the nuclear

crisis.

---- Congressional Research Service

This is for non proliferation purposes... one billion dollars in 11 years.

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Yo Iraqpriest, should we invade N. Korea? Yes or no answer will suffice. When we're done, should we invade Iran? Yes or no will suffice again. Thanks.

No.

1. The solution for North Korea is to restrict trade with China. A move that will also hinder China's growth into a further super power and potentially destroy their communist leadership... hopefully creating a true democracy.

I think you under estimate the power that China actually has. They don't need us for anything as of now. China is gearing towards becoming self sufficent from the rest of the world for the next century. They are stock piling natural resources and crude oil so that they can cut themselves off from the rest of the world if shit go's down!
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