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As i read thru some of the threads i've noticed nothing has change about the whole "door drama" with clubs in miami or any other major city.

One of the biggest reasons i don't go to the beach nowadays. After going to every club/lounge down there, i tend to avoid venus that make guys wait more than 10-20 minutes in line. It's one thing to make someone wait a few minutes, but 1-2 hours is a slap on the face.

Why should men get treated like dog shit at the door when they are the ones getting tables, bottles, tabs, i can go on n on.

Sure a club does not want to be "labeled" as "guy door friendly" as some homophobic people might think of it as a gay bar/venue, however it seems that every year the whole door drama gets worse and worse. Specially for the locals that don't go out as much as they used to.

I remember way back in the day when Mynt leather pants "Fabrizio's wannabes" would make couples wait, than they would let their girlfriends inside and make the guys wait in line. I am sure that has not changed.

I still think night clubs should obtain the same rules that strip clubs have when it comes to the door.

Only let girls in if they r being escorted by guys. Why? Well women "generally" don't spend money in a club like men do. Sure women can afford it and i know many that buy their own drinks, but strip clubs at least the big ones do not let women by themselves inside their venue.

Deep down unless you are 18-21 years old that you must sell your soul to get into a club, how desperate can you be and how much of the abuse will you take?

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Guest web_norah

while i agree with a lot of what you state...

unfortunately, girls, especially hot girls also don't hang at sausage fests, that's something perhaps some of the CJ women can attest to, the atmosphere doesn't flow when you have 20 guys to a woman, a meat rack environment....especially in lounge type places....larger clubs ---well it is slightly different, you gotta deal with it.

i think the whole ratio thing at the door is for that purpose, to make the going out experience better for everybody and the whole exclusivity / looks thing.

i also agree couples should be let in...rather than keep all the men outside and have 500 chicks inside the club.

and from what i remember, i spent my own money when i was out drinking....one thing is a friend buying you a drink but i never went out clubbing expecting MY bar tab to be covered....thats an open invite to assholes hitting on you, for the most part.

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Guest michael^heaven

The title says it all...."Door BS"!

I'm so over all of that bullshit! Music, music, music!!!!! That's what I want...& a nice dancefloor to enjoy music, music, music! You can keep all of that...

ooooh look at me....I'm soooo cool...I'm at the cool, trendy, club with my cool, trendy friends.....oooh....where's my cool vip section...ooooh....where's my $$$$$$$ bottle service?.....oooooh.....078ip9.gif

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The title says it all...."Door BS"!

I'm so over all of that bullshit! Music, music, music!!!!! That's what I want...& a nice dancefloor to enjoy music, music, music! You can keep all of that...

ooooh look at me....I'm soooo cool...I'm at the cool, trendy, club with my cool, trendy friends.....oooh....where's my cool vip section...ooooh....where's my $$$$$$$ bottle service?.....oooooh.....078ip9.gif

if only the people who love music spent a little bit more $$$$$ when they went out, in order to keep the music thing going.........then more clubs would get rid of bottle service.....until then, bottle service is here to stay.

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Guest michael^heaven

Even if I load up the drinks, prior, I always spend some $$$ at the bar. Plus, door entry, coat check, etc. However, I see your point. People will bitch if the door is 3 bucks!

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Guest web_norah

that's why people often make the comparison to places like Ibiza or London and it just doesn't equal the same deal ...yes, the music there is great, no doubt ...but clubbers drink at 12 euros a pop and £8-10 a drink in the UK....that's how clubs make their money and book the talent ....plus people pay door entry on top of that.

and of course, we're talking a different market altogether, Miami is different and has its own thing going on ...

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Guest LeVeL

I totally agree with Diogo but aside from some girls that pay for their drinks, most of the girls you see out and about dont pay for their drinks, they get hooked up at the door and sometimes dont spend a dime.

Even if a girl spends atleast 20 something dollars in a night out, its still not that much feasible to a club to allow someone who's freeloading out of her looks.

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Guest LeVeL

Ohh everybody knows that...this is just a subject that gets recycled over and over, just like all the Dj request threads, Which Dj experience was the most memorable thread ect..

people will continue to talk abut these subject no matter what..

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Guest mr.miami

Diogo where did you try to go to? ;D Usually, rants like this are spurred by some current incident. I've been out where just cus some attractive girls didnt know the door man they werent allowed entrance and they had to wait, too. That happened at Gryphon which its one thing to treat guys like that, but some decent women, too is odd. It tells you a lot about the place.

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Guest coach

Sorry kids, I totally disagree. I, for one, do not want to be in a club filled with sausage (unless I purposefully hit up a gay bar). You want easy door and good music, hit Blue, Laundry Bar, or Boom boom room. Maybe Dek 23 or Pawn Shop, too. And certianly Space.

But, if you want to hang out with some hot chicks, you are gonna have to put up with some door shit. This is why I always make sure that I either know someone with clout or get on the right lists. It's not really that hard. I've only been here a few years and I did it. I'm not a hottie, I'm not rich, I'm not in the biz. But I'm friendly, outgoing, and I spend a reasong amount of $$$. And I'm here all year. That's the one thing I really love about Miami, it IS all about who you know. Some cities are so impersonal, you can't find the hookup no matter what. But, in Miami, if you are just friendly and out and about regularly, you have no trouble.

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Guest eroc0411

its all about attitude... And if the door man is giving u drama walk away... head over 2 the next spot and give the door man $20 bucks b4 u open ur mouth... they will usually remember ur face afterwards... atleast have 1 chick w/ u. And dont be a douch and walk 2 the door w/ 1 chick and 3 dudes... Ur just askin 4 it!!! i personally prefer 2 get in2 the club in by my self and meet my friends inside... Atleast that way they can't fuck u... aND Be choosy about ur group.. It suxs when they let half the group in and not the other ppl... ps, guest list sux!!! i get more drama from these clip board whores then the actuall door man... Cameo is # 1 in that department!!

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Guest Orls

its all about attitude... And if the door man is giving u drama walk away... head over 2 the next spot and give the door man $20 bucks b4 u open ur mouth... they will usually remember ur face afterwards... atleast have 1 chick w/ u. And dont be a douch and walk 2 the door w/ 1 chick and 3 dudes... Ur just askin 4 it!!! i personally prefer 2 get in2 the club in by my self and meet my friends inside... Atleast that way they can't fuck u... aND Be choosy about ur group.. It suxs when they let half the group in and not the other ppl... ps, guest list sux!!! i get more drama from these clip board whores then the actuall door man... Cameo is # 1 in that department!!

I've seen people go up these duche bags at the door hit them up with $$$ and still have to wait or not get in at all - so you may want to rethink that. It def depends on venue - do your homework so you dont get caught with your pants at your ankles.

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Guest Ryan EliteEnt

I know this will not go anywhere and no one cares, but there is a reason for guys not getting into clubs right away or not at all. And this has been talked about a lot on here. But you have to understand that yes the vip bottle crowd is what really makes most clubs money. And no one wants to be in a club full of guys. It’s all about have Lots of sexy woman, and some guys spending lots of money on them. If you let all the guys in, then you have too many guys in the club. Now yes, some door guys are just plan asses and the door is just too crazy. But the club normally does this for a reason too. But most of the door are not as bad as you may think, they are just doing there job.

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Guest web_norah

I totally agree with Diogo but aside from some girls that pay for their drinks' date=' most of the girls you see out and about dont pay for their drinks, they get hooked up at the door and sometimes dont spend a dime.

Even if a girl spends atleast 20 something dollars in a night out, its still not that much feasible to a club to allow someone who's freeloading out of her looks.

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I am sorry but I never went home having spent less than at least $150 on my drinking alone and that is just a short night out for me....Sure you get a comp here and there but I am surely not the freeloader type, I make my own dough, thank you very much.

Girls who have all their drinks paid for usually deal with retards on regular basis.

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Yes, yes they do. There's plenty of girls that will grease your ego and then some for a few free drinks.

Trick is to let them do the greasing and then not hold up your end of the bargain.

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I totally agree with Diogo but aside from some girls that pay for their drinks, most of the girls you see out and about dont pay for their drinks, they get hooked up at the door and sometimes dont spend a dime.

Even if a girl spends atleast 20 something dollars in a night out, its still not that much feasible to a club to allow someone who's freeloading out of her looks.

I am sorry but I never went home having spent less than at least $150 on my drinking alone and that is just a short night out for me....Sure you get a comp here and there but I am surely not the freeloader type, I make my own dough, thank you very much.

Girls who have all their drinks paid for usually deal with retards on regular basis.

He was not talking about you, im sure u knew that before replying.

Also, this thread does not have to do about me getting into a club or not as i mentioned i haven't been to the beach in a very long time.

This thread has nothing to do with who you know at the door/venue.

No one is talking about a sausage fest, there should be some sort of system. Im sure paying for a second or maybe third guy would not cost too much cash flow for the venue when the door gets hectic.

I am talking about guys in general, getting treated like scums at the door. You plan your night out, get ready, call all your friends, than you get to the door, and you get treated like shit, so you think to yourself "hmmmm, does this club really deserves my money?".

One person not spending 20-300 bucks that night might not hurt the venue's profits, but think about how many potential clients that could've spent alot more at the bar/vip if they got treated with "respect" at the door. It's all about first impression.

If i go to a hotel expecting 5 star amenities, service, hospitality, and once i get there there's no customer service support, employees treat me like shit, chances are i would not go back. Seems like clubs haven't really caught up to that, or they just don't give a fuck because they feel that the club will be full regardless of who gets in. I still feel that if you treat someone right to begin with not only will you get repeative business, but that's the best advertising money you will ever spend hence referrals.

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