deanna11 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 criteria:1. euphoric feeling2. functional3. speedybonus points for:1. non-addicting2. non-lethal3. legalplease submit entries* to deanna11. entries will be thoroughly tested by a panel of judges. winner(s) will be notified via pm*be sure to include a short description of expected effects, dosage and suggested method of consumption, duration of intoxication, side effects, and toxicity------------------dance, like nobody is watching. and if they are, kick them really hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j303j Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 can i be a judge?????????------------------ A ho don't make a housewife.pappa's been smooth since the days of underoos!!!!AOL J303J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstatichigh35 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 HYDROCODONE, it's very euphoric, functional, and can be speedy, it IS legal, it's non-lethal, but it is addicting, thats the only bad part, but it's not that bad for you, so if I had a never ending supply, I wouldn't mind being addicted to it.Vote for me!!! PLEase I wanna win!!!!------------------ I'm the one with the whistle at Sound Factory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkFloyd40 Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Originally posted by ecstatichigh35:HYDROCODONE, it's very euphoric, functional, and can be speedy, it IS legal, it's non-lethal, but it is addicting, thats the only bad part, but it's not that bad for you, so if I had a never ending supply, I wouldn't mind being addicted to it.Vote for me!!! PLEase I wanna win!!!!i'll vote for you if you hook me up w/ it...------------------"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they never use" -Soren Kierkegaard"People who know little are usually great talkers, while men who know much say little." -Rousseau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowchaser Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Originally posted by deanna11:criteria:1. euphoric feeling2. functional3. speedybonus points for:1. non-addicting2. non-lethal3. legalits called love... it fucks you up the most...ok for that answer..you can beat me now over the head with a shovel. . . ------------------beautiful. . .strange. . . shadowchaser076@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loch Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Originally posted by shadowchaser: its called love... it fucks you up the most...ok for that answer..you can beat me now over the head with a shovel. . . whoaaa...that was profound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanna11 Posted March 26 Author Report Share Posted March 26 j303j is the guinea pig first round judge. if he survives an entry, it goes on to the second round of judgingshadowchaser's entry of "love" is disqualified on grounds of being fundamentally flawed"ideal" = no/minimal hangover------------------PleaseLeave meUrRock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezdreamer Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Originally posted by deanna11:shadowchaser's entry of "love" is disqualified on grounds of being fundamentally flawed"ideal" = no/minimal hangoverYeah, wtf is he thinking... that kinda hangover last for weeks, months, years sometimes... yeeshh...------------------Dreaming that all poon tang are created equal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowchaser Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Originally posted by deanna11: shadowchaser's entry of "love" is disqualified on grounds of being fundamentally flawed"ideal" = no/minimal hangoverright there is a flaw in the rules...it wasn't explained clearly...but i have to say the judge is very cute and adorabable and huggable...*kissing deanna11's ass to win*------------------beautiful. . .strange. . . shadowchaser076@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 my vote would have to be for peote, one teaspoon dried and crushed to a powder like consistency, transferred to gelcaps. (there is no other worse taste on the planet)euphoric would be an understatement, 18-24 hours of pure energy, not to mention a few other delightful suprises. if you can withstand the initial hour or more of the intense digestions process, and you can actually get your hands on the stuff, there is nothing like it on earth.enjoy------------------p00h lives vicariously through a wu tang record... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echostar Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 what is hydrocone??------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
translucent Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Espresso.------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarioNY Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 Found this in my inbox today...from a fitness magazine?!?!?!?The first research chemical that bodybuilders, models, and athletes arebeginning to use at clubs is a substance that goes by the street name ofFoxy, or Foxy Methoxy. The pharmaceutical name is 5-methoxy-N,N-diisopropyltryptamine or 5-MeO-DIPT for short. The second researchchemical that we have heard quite a lot about recently goes by Mystic onthe streets. The pharmaceutical name for Mystic is 4-propylthio-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine or 2C-T-7. The third substance, which is no longera research chemical and has now been scheduled as a Schedule 1 drug is2-(4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-phenyl)-ethylamine or 2C-B for short. On thestreet, 2C-B goes by the names Venus, Bromo, Eros, and Nexus.All three of these substances were first synthesized by Dr. AlexanderShulgin. Dr. Shulgin was the first to synthesize MDMA better known asEcstasy. These drugs could be called designer drugs, as they weredeveloped once Ecstasy became illegal in 1985.Before we discuss these new drugs, it might be helpful to look at whatexactly are research chemicals. Research chemicals literally refer tochemicals that are still being researched. When used to describepsychoactive drugs, it refers to new drugs that have not been thoroughlystudied.Some research chemicals are newly discovered substances, othersmay be ten or even twenty years old, but have not been studied. What iscommon to both types of drugs is that there is little research if any onthe pharmacology or toxicology of these substances. Most likely, there areno human or animal studies on these substances. In direct contrast withdrugs like ecstasy, which has been taken by millions of people for thelast three decades, and marijuana that has been used by billions of peoplefor thousands of years, research chemicals are new and may only have beenused by several hundred people for several months.Obviously, the risks with the use of research chemicals are enormous. Butperhaps because of many bodybuilders' daredevil spirit, we are beginningto see more and more experimentation with these substances in ourcommunity.Here is what we know so far.Foxy Methoxy5-methoxy-N,N-diisopropyltryptamineFoxy Methoxy or 5-MeO-DIPT has proven to be quite interesting as arecreational substance. We believe that 5-MeO-DIPT has been given the name"Foxy Methoxy" as it pleasantly enhances tactile sensation in most users.At this time, as a research chemical, 5-MeO-DIPT is not illegal in theUnited States. Foxy should be white or tan in appearance. Since it is anindole alkaloid derivative, it has a strong indole smell and taste whichmost people find very unpleasant. Like other related substances, foxycombines with nerve receptors and liberates serotonin. As many peopleknow by now, serotonin or 5-hydroxytryptamine, is a neurotransmitterinvolved with sleep, pleasure, depression, and memory.Foxy's onset, duration, and effects vary according to your metabolism andneurochemistry. Other factors that may affect the trip: whether or not youhave a full stomach (fasting for at least 12 hours prior is recommended);psychological/emotional state you are experiencing when you dose; theenvironment it is taken in, etc. These variables are true of allpsychedelics. Generally, the effects build for roughly 2 hours, at whichpoint the peak is reached, and then there is a gradual wearing off thatlasts for about five hours.Foxy appears to be a drug that is fairly safe and may have potential fortherapeutic applications. It definitely deserves more research.Dosage5-MeO-DIPT is an extremely potent material making careful measurement anabsolute must. Without a scale, it can be very easy to overdose. It is nota good idea to "eyeball" a dose of this substance, as the dose-to-responsecurve is extremely steep.When taken orally at low doses (5-10mg), 5-MeO-DIPT induces a warm,pleasant state in which tactile and aural sensations may be enhanced. Manypeople have commented that at this dosage range, Foxy possesses amazingaphrodisiac qualities - enhancing the libido significantly. Increasing thedosage beyond the 10mg mark, athletes report the effects becomeincreasingly psychedelic, producing vivid visuals and mental phenomenonsimilar to LSD or Psilocybe mushrooms. Taking over 25mg at once couldprove to be highly dangerous.Booster DosesBodybuilders have reported taking booster doses to prolong the effects.Since tolerance does not develop significantly until after the peak of thetrip, athletes report that the optimal time for a booster dose is justprior to the onset of the peak.Side Effects:Fortunately, bodybuilders have not reported many side effects from Foxy.Some have reported insomnia following the trip while others reportednausea sometimes accompanied by vomiting. This can be avoided by fastingfor twelve hours prior to ingestion and possibly using Loperamide -- theactive ingredient in anti-diarrhea medications like Immodium.As with all mind-altering substances, certain common-sense precautionsexist with this drug. Do not drive a car; operate heavy machinery, etc.while under its influence. It should not be used if you are pregnant,nursing, or not of a mature emotional level. Those with a pre-existingmedical or psychological conditions should also avoid this drug.Users have reported developing a tolerance to Foxy after taking it. If onedoes not wait about a week before using this substance again, the effectswill be barely felt, or more will be required to produce the same effect.At present, 5-MeO-DIPT has caused no human deaths.StorageStore in an airtight container, kept in a cool, dark location.Mystic2C-T-74-propylthio-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine, C12H21O2NS (mol. wt. 243.37)Another research chemical that is gaining popularity in the bodybuildercommunity is 2C-T-7, known on the street as Mystic. Anecdotal evidencesuggests that Mystic produces a more pronounced hallucinogenic effect thandoes Foxy - hence its name Mystic. Like Foxy, Mystic tends to produce someof the same feelings of euphoria. A trip reportedly lasts about sevenhours, with a peak at the end of the second hour. When administerednasally, like Foxy, the onset tends to come much quicker. As of thiswriting, we believe that Mystic is legal.Overall, athletes, bodybuilders, and models have reported positiveexperiences from this substance. Even the people who have expressed nointerest in taking it again often state that they are glad they had theexperience.DosagesTaken orally, a number of people report strong effects from dosages as lowas 10 mg; however, most believe that 15-25 mg is considered a mild dosage.A moderate dosage would be in the neighborhood of 25 to 35 mg. More than35 mg would be considered a strong dose.Side effectsWhile side effects such as nausea are common, people do not seem botheredby this fact. Some people have used the drug recklessly, in high doses andreported that they "freaked-out" like from a bad LSD trip. They alsoreported severe nausea. Negative side effects tend to be more severe whenthe drug is administered nasally.There is one death associated with 2C-T-7. A young man with noknown health problems and who was taking no other drugs insufflated(snorted) a 35mg dose. The most common nasal dose is 3-6 mg. Thisyoung man began bleeding profusely from the nose, vomiting, andconvulsing. He then went into cardiac arrest and died. Although the deathcould be caused by any number of things such as an unknown heart problempushed over the edge by a severe panic reaction, toxic impurities in thedrug, other drugs taken, allergic reaction to the drug, we cannot rule outthe possibility that it was an overdose. Autopsy results are notavailable.Venus, Bromo, Eros, and Nexus2C-B4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamineThe substance 2C-B, also known as "Venus", "Bromo", "Eros", or "Nexus", iscurrently a Schedule-I substance. After a company marketed 2C-B for humanconsumption, this former research chemical was scheduled, meaning that itis illegal to posses, manufacture, or distribute any amount of 2C-B forany purpose. Any persons caught breaking this law can be subject toprosecution.2C-B is related structurally to mescaline, DOB, and distantly to MDMA. Itwas first synthesized by Alexander Shulgin in 1974 while exploringhomologues of DOB. Its psychoactivity was first discovered on June 25,1975 by Dr. Shulgin who described it as "beautifully active". 2C-B wasmarketed in the late 1980s as an MDMA replacement after Ecstasy wasscheduled in 1985. It was added to Schedule I in the U.S. in 1994 and by1999, it was illegal in most of the world.2C-B has become popular in Germany and Switzerland and is believed to bemanufactured in South Africa and the Netherlands. It is becoming popularwith bodybuilders and models and has begun to appear on the Rave scene.The drug promotes an enhancement of visual and auditory perception, in-creased sexual desire, and heightened senses of taste and touch.The effects of 2C-B have been described as a cross between the effects ofLSD and MDMA. Athletes report that it is mildly psychedelic, much lessmind-expanding or disassociative than mushrooms or LSD, but much lessdirected than MDMA. The drug peaks about 90 minutes after ingestion.Most people experience 2C-B as being much 'lighter' on their body thanMDMA with far less 'crash' and much less physically draining. It is alsonot as 'easy' as MDMA, in that it is more of a 'true' psychedelic --allowing the users mind to become manifest and create the experienceinstead of being 'pushed' into a positive mood space as MDMA usually does.DosageNexus is generally available in pill, capsule, or powder form. It is tentimes more powerful than MDMA with a typical dosage unit ranging from 5 to10 milligramsSide Effects2C-B includes Open Eye Visual (OEV) effects that are usually described ascrawling, shifting, or undulating, or cartooning. Closed Eye Visuals(CEVs) are present and increase with dosage. Many report a 'color shift'where objects seem to have red or green halos around themThe drug does have some serious side effects, including confusion,cardiovascular disturbances, and dehydration. No price data are availableat this time.Many, but not all, people experience stomach discomfort sometimesincluding mild diarrhea, gas, nausea and (rarely) vomiting.Some people find 2C-B increases their ability to communicate verbally,while others find themselves unable to elucidate their ideas clearly. Somepeople describe a type of confusion that can be part of the experience, atype of 'stoned' feeling of mental and physical relaxationwhich can translate into the inability or lack of desire to go into complexintellectual processes.As I mentioned before, the long-term risks of these substances are unknownand therefore much greater than with older better-studied drugs. Usingthese substances make athletes into human guinea pigs. Bodybuilders tend to beparticularly susceptible to the use of these substances for recreationalpurposes as they hare used to experimentation with anabolic and androgenicsteroids. These drugs may be harmless and the may be beneficial, or they couldturn out to be like MPTP, the drug that caused the DEA to be givenemergency scheduling powers.MPTP was the byproduct of a faulty designer opiate. A chemist was tryingto develop a synthetic heroin. What was created instead was a compoundthat metabolizes in the body selectively killing dopamine neurons in thestriatum -- producing a syndrome nearly identical to Parkinson's disease.Using MPTP just once was sufficient to produce this result.------------------ MarioNY.com AOL:ZOMBLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanna11 Posted March 26 Author Report Share Posted March 26 Originally posted by wizard:my vote would have to be for peote, one teaspoon dried and crushed to a powder like consistency, transferred to gelcaps. (there is no other worse taste on the planet)euphoric would be an understatement, 18-24 hours of pure energy, not to mention a few other delightful suprises. if you can withstand the initial hour or more of the intense digestions process, and you can actually get your hands on the stuff, there is nothing like it on earth.enjoyhm. i never see cactii in the city------------------PleaseLeave meUrRock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2heaven Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 ::raising hand::Can i be the guinea pig????------------------Mine comes in a form of a pill and powder.What's your...... ? ? ? ? ? ?AIM: XxFUEL1xX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melichacha Posted March 27 Report Share Posted March 27 I call guinea pig status for round 3!! - Cuban B - ------------------ "This is not political - it's just that I demand attention when I walk into the room..." -- Nelly FurtadoAIM: MeliChaCha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanna11 Posted March 30 Author Report Share Posted March 30 Mario knows what's upi said NEW, you moronsand automatic honorable mention minimum to whoever also imports/produces the drug in enough abundance that i can find it before tomorrow------------------PleaseLeave meUrRock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandie Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 i'm taking this trip to idaho . . . i'm sure i can find some peyote . . . but then again, if i do, i might not ever come back again. heheheDeanna will drive.good plan.luv,brandie------------------ loves2cox@netscape.net AIM: loves2cox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Originally posted by deanna11: hm. i never see cactii in the citytrue, true...i was lucky enough to grow up with a guy, who's father is a complete madman. he was born again on an acid trip, as he was sitting in the apartment of his dealer in the village, the pigs busted in and served a warrant, he claims that the letters on the warrant dripped off the page and somewhere along that route he was born again.he left the chemical scene, as god doesnt warrant that type of behavior. yet he can still be heard mumbling something jesus once said "nothing is unclean of itself"....somehow that translates into "if it comes from the earth you can use it".needless to say, mushrooms and grass were used on a regular basis for his bible studies. the mushrooms only for his sunday studies of course... until he ate far too many and (in total he ate 1/4 ounce of some rocket shrooms, thinking the first 1/8 didnt work, he ate the rest and...) went on a trip that lasted a total of 9 days, ending when he collapsed in manhattan i front of his office (the DEP). he was promptly taken to a mental institution, where he did a short stint and went back to work.from here he devised a master plan and studied peote, everything about it, for 10 years before he took his maiden voyage to texas... the first trip was no so fruitful, as he learned that the august flower of the cactii in question is most powerful. so 2 years later he returned and with is plan in full effect, six weeks later, including many absurd adventures on the side (don quixote type absurd adventures) he reappears with nearly two pounds of ripe august buttons ready for processing. this is pushing 10 years now and the stash is long gone, and not to be cliche but, what a long strange trip it's been.im certain there is another adventure on the horizon, but we have come to the conclusion that he will never return from the next one.i must admit that stopping by his home during a cactus induced sunday bible study was worth more than a few laughs. if you have never seen a human being whom resembles mr. potatohead, in the flesh, i recommend it highly. not to mention the things he would say, thats a whole other story.although cactii doesnt fit into the idea of 'new drug', im certain it's new to most, hence my story. it's def worth a try, but i can tell you it's not for everyone, and you must have an iron stomach to make it through, i would guess half of my friends who were lucky enough to indulge made it through those initial 2 hours, but it was well worth it i think.i apologize for the length, but if i kept going it might sound like something straight out of a hunter s thompson novel. this guy lived it though.be coolstephen------------------don't act too cool because you might get shot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back2basics- Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Yeh an those cactus's are legal. You can get ones from garden centers that are as strong as Peyote.------------------I want to go out blazing..not fade away.Trust in the currency of relationships, it's hard to earn but easy to loose - back2basics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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