NEW IDEAL DRUG CONTEST

[deanna11]

criteria:

1. euphoric feeling

2. functional

3. speedy

bonus points for:

1. non-addicting

2. non-lethal

3. legal

please submit entries* to deanna11. entries will be thoroughly tested by a panel of judges. winner(s) will be notified via pm

*be sure to include a short description of expected effects, dosage and suggested method of consumption, duration of intoxication, side effects, and toxicity

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dance, like nobody is watching. and if they are, kick them really hard

[j303j]

can i be a judge?????????

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A ho don't make a housewife.

pappa's been smooth since the days of underoos!!!!

AOL J303J

[ecstatichigh35]

HYDROCODONE, it's very euphoric, functional, and can be speedy, it IS legal, it's non-lethal, but it is addicting, thats the only bad part, but it's not that bad for you, so if I had a never ending supply, I wouldn't mind being addicted to it.

Vote for me!!! PLEase I wanna win!!!!

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I'm the one with the whistle at Sound Factory

[PinkFloyd40]

Originally posted by ecstatichigh35:

HYDROCODONE, it's very euphoric, functional, and can be speedy, it IS legal, it's non-lethal, but it is addicting, thats the only bad part, but it's not that bad for you, so if I had a never ending supply, I wouldn't mind being addicted to it.

Vote for me!!! PLEase I wanna win!!!!

i'll vote for you if you hook me up w/ it...

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"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they never use" -Soren Kierkegaard

"People who know little are usually great talkers, while men who know much say little." -Rousseau

[shadowchaser]

Originally posted by deanna11:

criteria:

1. euphoric feeling

2. functional

3. speedy

bonus points for:

1. non-addicting

2. non-lethal

3. legal

its called love... it fucks you up the most...

ok for that answer..you can beat me now over the head with a shovel. . .

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beautiful. . .strange. . .

shadowchaser076@aol.com

[loch]

Originally posted by shadowchaser:

its called love... it fucks you up the most...

ok for that answer..you can beat me now over the head with a shovel. . .

whoaaa...that was profound

[deanna11]

j303j is the guinea pig first round judge. if he survives an entry, it goes on to the second round of judging

shadowchaser's entry of "love" is disqualified on grounds of being fundamentally flawed

"ideal" = no/minimal hangover

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Please

Leave me

Ur

Rock

[ezdreamer]

Originally posted by deanna11:

shadowchaser's entry of "love" is disqualified on grounds of being fundamentally flawed

"ideal" = no/minimal hangover

Yeah, wtf is he thinking... that kinda hangover last for weeks, months, years sometimes... yeeshh...

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Dreaming that all poon tang are created equal...

[shadowchaser]

Originally posted by deanna11:

shadowchaser's entry of "love" is disqualified on grounds of being fundamentally flawed

"ideal" = no/minimal hangover

right there is a flaw in the rules...it wasn't explained clearly...

but i have to say the judge is very cute and adorabable and huggable...

*kissing deanna11's ass to win*

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beautiful. . .strange. . .

shadowchaser076@aol.com

[wizard]

my vote would have to be for peote, one teaspoon dried and crushed to a powder like consistency, transferred to gelcaps. (there is no other worse taste on the planet)euphoric would be an understatement, 18-24 hours of pure energy, not to mention a few other delightful suprises. if you can withstand the initial hour or more of the intense digestions process, and you can actually get your hands on the stuff, there is nothing like it on earth.

enjoy

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p00h lives vicariously through a wu tang record...

[echostar]

what is hydrocone??

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[translucent]

Espresso.

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[MarioNY]

Found this in my inbox today...from a fitness magazine?!?!?!?

The first research chemical that bodybuilders, models, and athletes are

beginning to use at clubs is a substance that goes by the street name of

Foxy, or Foxy Methoxy. The pharmaceutical name is 5-methoxy-N,N-

diisopropyltryptamine or 5-MeO-DIPT for short. The second research

chemical that we have heard quite a lot about recently goes by Mystic on

the streets. The pharmaceutical name for Mystic is 4-propylthio-2,5-

dimethoxyphenethylamine or 2C-T-7. The third substance, which is no longer

a research chemical and has now been scheduled as a Schedule 1 drug is

2-(4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-phenyl)-ethylamine or 2C-B for short. On the

street, 2C-B goes by the names Venus, Bromo, Eros, and Nexus.

All three of these substances were first synthesized by Dr. Alexander

Shulgin. Dr. Shulgin was the first to synthesize MDMA better known as

Ecstasy. These drugs could be called designer drugs, as they were

developed once Ecstasy became illegal in 1985.

Before we discuss these new drugs, it might be helpful to look at what

exactly are research chemicals. Research chemicals literally refer to

chemicals that are still being researched. When used to describe

psychoactive drugs, it refers to new drugs that have not been thoroughly

studied.

Some research chemicals are newly discovered substances, others

may be ten or even twenty years old, but have not been studied. What is

common to both types of drugs is that there is little research if any on

the pharmacology or toxicology of these substances. Most likely, there are

no human or animal studies on these substances. In direct contrast with

drugs like ecstasy, which has been taken by millions of people for the

last three decades, and marijuana that has been used by billions of people

for thousands of years, research chemicals are new and may only have been

used by several hundred people for several months.

Obviously, the risks with the use of research chemicals are enormous. But

perhaps because of many bodybuilders' daredevil spirit, we are beginning

to see more and more experimentation with these substances in our

community.

Here is what we know so far.

Foxy Methoxy

5-methoxy-N,N-diisopropyltryptamine

Foxy Methoxy or 5-MeO-DIPT has proven to be quite interesting as a

recreational substance. We believe that 5-MeO-DIPT has been given the name

"Foxy Methoxy" as it pleasantly enhances tactile sensation in most users.

At this time, as a research chemical, 5-MeO-DIPT is not illegal in the

United States. Foxy should be white or tan in appearance. Since it is an

indole alkaloid derivative, it has a strong indole smell and taste which

most people find very unpleasant. Like other related substances, foxy

combines with nerve receptors and liberates serotonin. As many people

know by now, serotonin or 5-hydroxytryptamine, is a neurotransmitter

involved with sleep, pleasure, depression, and memory.

Foxy's onset, duration, and effects vary according to your metabolism and

neurochemistry. Other factors that may affect the trip: whether or not you

have a full stomach (fasting for at least 12 hours prior is recommended);

psychological/emotional state you are experiencing when you dose; the

environment it is taken in, etc. These variables are true of all

psychedelics. Generally, the effects build for roughly 2 hours, at which

point the peak is reached, and then there is a gradual wearing off that

lasts for about five hours.

Foxy appears to be a drug that is fairly safe and may have potential for

therapeutic applications. It definitely deserves more research.

Dosage

5-MeO-DIPT is an extremely potent material making careful measurement an

absolute must. Without a scale, it can be very easy to overdose. It is not

a good idea to "eyeball" a dose of this substance, as the dose-to-response

curve is extremely steep.

When taken orally at low doses (5-10mg), 5-MeO-DIPT induces a warm,

pleasant state in which tactile and aural sensations may be enhanced. Many

people have commented that at this dosage range, Foxy possesses amazing

aphrodisiac qualities - enhancing the libido significantly. Increasing the

dosage beyond the 10mg mark, athletes report the effects become

increasingly psychedelic, producing vivid visuals and mental phenomenon

similar to LSD or Psilocybe mushrooms. Taking over 25mg at once could

prove to be highly dangerous.

Booster Doses

Bodybuilders have reported taking booster doses to prolong the effects.

Since tolerance does not develop significantly until after the peak of the

trip, athletes report that the optimal time for a booster dose is just

prior to the onset of the peak.

Side Effects:

Fortunately, bodybuilders have not reported many side effects from Foxy.

Some have reported insomnia following the trip while others reported

nausea sometimes accompanied by vomiting. This can be avoided by fasting

for twelve hours prior to ingestion and possibly using Loperamide -- the

active ingredient in anti-diarrhea medications like Immodium.

As with all mind-altering substances, certain common-sense precautions

exist with this drug. Do not drive a car; operate heavy machinery, etc.

while under its influence. It should not be used if you are pregnant,

nursing, or not of a mature emotional level. Those with a pre-existing

medical or psychological conditions should also avoid this drug.

Users have reported developing a tolerance to Foxy after taking it. If one

does not wait about a week before using this substance again, the effects

will be barely felt, or more will be required to produce the same effect.

At present, 5-MeO-DIPT has caused no human deaths.

Storage

Store in an airtight container, kept in a cool, dark location.

Mystic

2C-T-7

4-propylthio-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine, C12H21O2NS (mol. wt. 243.37)

Another research chemical that is gaining popularity in the bodybuilder

community is 2C-T-7, known on the street as Mystic. Anecdotal evidence

suggests that Mystic produces a more pronounced hallucinogenic effect than

does Foxy - hence its name Mystic. Like Foxy, Mystic tends to produce some

of the same feelings of euphoria. A trip reportedly lasts about seven

hours, with a peak at the end of the second hour. When administered

nasally, like Foxy, the onset tends to come much quicker. As of this

writing, we believe that Mystic is legal.

Overall, athletes, bodybuilders, and models have reported positive

experiences from this substance. Even the people who have expressed no

interest in taking it again often state that they are glad they had the

experience.

Dosages

Taken orally, a number of people report strong effects from dosages as low

as 10 mg; however, most believe that 15-25 mg is considered a mild dosage.

A moderate dosage would be in the neighborhood of 25 to 35 mg. More than

35 mg would be considered a strong dose.

Side effects

While side effects such as nausea are common, people do not seem bothered

by this fact. Some people have used the drug recklessly, in high doses and

reported that they "freaked-out" like from a bad LSD trip. They also

reported severe nausea. Negative side effects tend to be more severe when

the drug is administered nasally.

There is one death associated with 2C-T-7. A young man with no

known health problems and who was taking no other drugs insufflated

(snorted) a 35mg dose. The most common nasal dose is 3-6 mg. This

young man began bleeding profusely from the nose, vomiting, and

convulsing. He then went into cardiac arrest and died. Although the death

could be caused by any number of things such as an unknown heart problem

pushed over the edge by a severe panic reaction, toxic impurities in the

drug, other drugs taken, allergic reaction to the drug, we cannot rule out

the possibility that it was an overdose. Autopsy results are not

available.

Venus, Bromo, Eros, and Nexus

2C-B

4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine

The substance 2C-B, also known as "Venus", "Bromo", "Eros", or "Nexus", is

currently a Schedule-I substance. After a company marketed 2C-B for human

consumption, this former research chemical was scheduled, meaning that it

is illegal to posses, manufacture, or distribute any amount of 2C-B for

any purpose. Any persons caught breaking this law can be subject to

prosecution.

2C-B is related structurally to mescaline, DOB, and distantly to MDMA. It

was first synthesized by Alexander Shulgin in 1974 while exploring

homologues of DOB. Its psychoactivity was first discovered on June 25,

1975 by Dr. Shulgin who described it as "beautifully active". 2C-B was

marketed in the late 1980s as an MDMA replacement after Ecstasy was

scheduled in 1985. It was added to Schedule I in the U.S. in 1994 and by

1999, it was illegal in most of the world.

2C-B has become popular in Germany and Switzerland and is believed to be

manufactured in South Africa and the Netherlands. It is becoming popular

with bodybuilders and models and has begun to appear on the Rave scene.

The drug promotes an enhancement of visual and auditory perception, in-

creased sexual desire, and heightened senses of taste and touch.

The effects of 2C-B have been described as a cross between the effects of

LSD and MDMA. Athletes report that it is mildly psychedelic, much less

mind-expanding or disassociative than mushrooms or LSD, but much less

directed than MDMA. The drug peaks about 90 minutes after ingestion.

Most people experience 2C-B as being much 'lighter' on their body than

MDMA with far less 'crash' and much less physically draining. It is also

not as 'easy' as MDMA, in that it is more of a 'true' psychedelic --

allowing the users mind to become manifest and create the experience

instead of being 'pushed' into a positive mood space as MDMA usually does.

Dosage

Nexus is generally available in pill, capsule, or powder form. It is ten

times more powerful than MDMA with a typical dosage unit ranging from 5 to

10 milligrams

Side Effects

2C-B includes Open Eye Visual (OEV) effects that are usually described as

crawling, shifting, or undulating, or cartooning. Closed Eye Visuals

(CEVs) are present and increase with dosage. Many report a 'color shift'

where objects seem to have red or green halos around them

The drug does have some serious side effects, including confusion,

cardiovascular disturbances, and dehydration. No price data are available

at this time.

Many, but not all, people experience stomach discomfort sometimes

including mild diarrhea, gas, nausea and (rarely) vomiting.

Some people find 2C-B increases their ability to communicate verbally,

while others find themselves unable to elucidate their ideas clearly. Some

people describe a type of confusion that can be part of the experience, a

type of 'stoned' feeling of mental and physical relaxation

which can translate into the inability or lack of desire to go into complex

intellectual processes.

As I mentioned before, the long-term risks of these substances are unknown

and therefore much greater than with older better-studied drugs. Using

these substances make athletes into human guinea pigs. Bodybuilders tend to be

particularly susceptible to the use of these substances for recreational

purposes as they hare used to experimentation with anabolic and androgenic

steroids. These drugs may be harmless and the may be beneficial, or they could

turn out to be like MPTP, the drug that caused the DEA to be given

emergency scheduling powers.

MPTP was the byproduct of a faulty designer opiate. A chemist was trying

to develop a synthetic heroin. What was created instead was a compound

that metabolizes in the body selectively killing dopamine neurons in the

striatum -- producing a syndrome nearly identical to Parkinson's disease.

Using MPTP just once was sufficient to produce this result.

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MarioNY.com

AOL:ZOMBLA

[deanna11]

Originally posted by wizard:

my vote would have to be for peote, one teaspoon dried and crushed to a powder like consistency, transferred to gelcaps. (there is no other worse taste on the planet)euphoric would be an understatement, 18-24 hours of pure energy, not to mention a few other delightful suprises. if you can withstand the initial hour or more of the intense digestions process, and you can actually get your hands on the stuff, there is nothing like it on earth.

enjoy

hm. i never see cactii in the city

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Please

Leave me

Ur

Rock

[exit2heaven]

::raising hand::

Can i be the guinea pig????

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Mine comes in a form of a pill and powder.

What's your......

? ? ? ? ? ?

AIM: XxFUEL1xX

[melichacha]

I call guinea pig status for round 3!!

- Cuban B -

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"This is not political - it's just that I demand attention when I walk into the room..." -- Nelly Furtado

AIM: MeliChaCha

[deanna11]

Mario knows what's up

i said NEW, you morons

and automatic honorable mention minimum to whoever also imports/produces the drug in enough abundance that i can find it before tomorrow

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Please

Leave me

Ur

Rock

[brandie]

i'm taking this trip to idaho . . . i'm sure i can find some peyote . . . but then again, if i do, i might not ever come back again.

hehehe

Deanna will drive.

good plan.

luv,

brandie

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loves2cox@netscape.net

AIM: loves2cox

[wizard]

Originally posted by deanna11:

hm. i never see cactii in the city

true, true...

i was lucky enough to grow up with a guy, who's father is a complete madman. he was born again on an acid trip, as he was sitting in the apartment of his dealer in the village, the pigs busted in and served a warrant, he claims that the letters on the warrant dripped off the page and somewhere along that route he was born again.

he left the chemical scene, as god doesnt warrant that type of behavior. yet he can still be heard mumbling something jesus once said "nothing is unclean of itself"....somehow that translates into "if it comes from the earth you can use it".

needless to say, mushrooms and grass were used on a regular basis for his bible studies. the mushrooms only for his sunday studies of course... until he ate far too many and (in total he ate 1/4 ounce of some rocket shrooms, thinking the first 1/8 didnt work, he ate the rest and...) went on a trip that lasted a total of 9 days, ending when he collapsed in manhattan i front of his office (the DEP). he was promptly taken to a mental institution, where he did a short stint and went back to work.

from here he devised a master plan and studied peote, everything about it, for 10 years before he took his maiden voyage to texas... the first trip was no so fruitful, as he learned that the august flower of the cactii in question is most powerful. so 2 years later he returned and with is plan in full effect, six weeks later, including many absurd adventures on the side (don quixote type absurd adventures) he reappears with nearly two pounds of ripe august buttons ready for processing.

this is pushing 10 years now and the stash is long gone, and not to be cliche but, what a long strange trip it's been.

im certain there is another adventure on the horizon, but we have come to the conclusion that he will never return from the next one.

i must admit that stopping by his home during a cactus induced sunday bible study was worth more than a few laughs. if you have never seen a human being whom resembles mr. potatohead, in the flesh, i recommend it highly. not to mention the things he would say, thats a whole other story.

although cactii doesnt fit into the idea of 'new drug', im certain it's new to most, hence my story. it's def worth a try, but i can tell you it's not for everyone, and you must have an iron stomach to make it through, i would guess half of my friends who were lucky enough to indulge made it through those initial 2 hours, but it was well worth it i think.

i apologize for the length, but if i kept going it might sound like something straight out of a hunter s thompson novel. this guy lived it though.

be cool

stephen

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don't act too cool because you might get shot...

[back2basics-]

Yeh an those cactus's are legal. You can get ones from garden centers that are as strong as Peyote.

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I want to go out blazing..not fade away.

Trust in the currency of relationships, it's hard to earn but easy to loose - back2basics