ernextnation Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 Hey guys!I just finished my last mixset and I would like to get some feedback.Feel free to say anything:D Listen Let me know if you want a free copy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadygroovedc Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 Originally posted by ernextnation Hey guys!I just finished my last mixset and I would like to get some feedback.Feel free to say anything:D Listen Let me know if you want a free copy Listening to it now. How long you been spinning for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadygroovedc Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 That's the Creamer/K remix of Rapture, by the way. Digweed fucked the whole world over by announcing it on Kiss FM incorrectly. All the MP3's I've seen have them titled backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadygroovedc Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 Aight. This could become a long post, cause I can go on for days about the art of mixing. So bear with me. So you've got two songs. I'll call the song that's playing Song A, and the song you're mixing in Song B.First, let's talk beatmatching. You seem to have 'em pretty close, but you're not pushing off Song B on the first down beat of a bar on Song A. The down beat of a song in house music is ALWAYS the kick drum. The result is you get a machine gun sound as the down beats of Song A hit on the 1-2-3-4, while the down beats of Song B hit on the "Ands" (you know when counting beats, you can count eighth notes, 1-And-2-And-3-And-4-And, right?) So even though you may not technically be trainwrecking, you're still not matched up perfectly. BTW, this will sometimes happen accidentally when you're mixing. If this ever happens to you during a set while playing out, you can get out of it by doing a spinback. At the beginning of a phrase (see below), grab the platter of Song A, and pull it back (like playing it in reverse). While it's going backwards, cut out the channel, and it'll sound like you meant to do it.Second, let's talk phrasing. Everything in music is based on phrases. Any new layer of sound comes in on a phrase, and any layer of sound is taken away on a phrase. You've got 32 count phrases (8 bars), and you've got 64 count phrases (16 bars). The first beat at the very beginning of the tune USUALLY starts a phrase (sometimes producers do sneaky things like start the tune with a 4th beat or shit like that). Right after a breakdown, the first down beat starts a new phrase. So, if you cue up Song B to the first beat (which is the start of a phrase), and Song A hits a breakdown, if you push off Song B right on the first beat that Song A comes out of the breakdown, you've got them perfectly phrased. If you want to wait a couple phrases, then you just have to count and wait out a full 32 or 64 or any multiple of those beats.Phrasing is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING! If you don't have the two songs phrased, I don't care if the beats are matched perfectly, the mix is gonna sound bushleague. You'll have vocals running into each other, you'll have a wash coming in where it shouldn't. And you'll never be able to mix out smoothly.OK, now the mixing part. I notice you fade out the channel quite a bit. Meaning, you just slowly bring the level down of Song A. That's ok, but it kills the flow. Once you have the phrasing down, the rule is ALWAYS mix in and out of the beginning of a phrase. You push off Song B at the beginning of a phrase. You hit the crossfader at the beginning of a phrase. You hold the mix for X number of phrases. You switch EQ levels at beginning of phrases. And finally, when you're ready, you cut out Song A at the beginning of a phrase. If you do that, you don't have to fade the channel out like you do. The effect of the tunes being phrased will automatically make your mix smooth. What I like to do is hold it until I get to a wash of some sort. Usually, this happens after the intro of a tune. Anywhere between 2 and 5 minutes into the song. So you hold it, play with the EQ levels to smooth the transition, and when a wash comes, BAM, fade out Song A, and you've got a money mix that'll have Sasha calling you God. But really, when to mix out of a song is really your preference. That really defines your style. The only rules you have to follow is a) have them beatmatched, and have them phrased and c) do EVERYTHING on a phrase (mix in, mix out, EQ's). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernextnation Posted December 14 Author Report Share Posted December 14 Thanx Shady, that will help me a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadygroovedc Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 Originally posted by ernextnation Thanx Shady, that will help me a lot. For more DJ related tips, check out www.djsource.co.uk. They used to have a lot of good stuff on beatmatching, phrasing, and equipment. Haven't seen the site lately, but it used to be pretty good.And you've got the beatmatching pretty close right now. The phrasing will help you get to the next level. Once you get that down, come back to Master Shady for some more info. I'll give you some tips on basic turntablist skills. It's the new wave of progressive. Everyone's starting to scratch these days - even in progressive house and trance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremyd Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 <-- tablist te he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malanee Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 Holy shit Shady! How much do you charge for lessons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chynado11 Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 where are u from originally and when did u start spinning??cd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadygroovedc Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by malanee Holy shit Shady! How much do you charge for lessons? One is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malanee Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by shadygroovedc One is all. Should I bring my cocktail straw and tweezers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadygroovedc Posted December 17 Report Share Posted December 17 Originally posted by malanee Should I bring my cocktail straw and tweezers? Whatever floats your boat... HEY! WAIT A MINUTE!! GODDAMIT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernextnation Posted December 18 Author Report Share Posted December 18 Originally posted by chynado11 where are u from originally and when did u start spinning??cd Im originally from Cuba and I started spinning back in 1996.Used to spin Eurodisco for the European tourism in Cuba.Years later I moved to Miami, got into Breaks,lately in Trance(what really like)and now Im tryng to play House bcause is what people are getting into these days.Why Chinadoll??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcsglow Posted December 18 Report Share Posted December 18 Originally posted by malanee Should I bring my cocktail straw and tweezers? :laugh: LMFAO!!! :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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