and they still dying, lots n lots of them...the numbers we see on tv r a joke, its at least double the fatalities...it will never end, middle easterns know their land way too well... what is "at least double"? unless you have been there no one here can say. have a friend n friend's friend of mine just got back from iraq not too long ago...ask anyone that is in the army and is or was serving and they will tell you str8 up i went to vegas with a buddy who got back from there not long ago. the way i see it, if there was any valid reason to raise the death count, the media would do it in a heartbeat. i dunno bro, im sure the govt tries to keep somewhat in the down-lo, but who knows...its just sad seeing people getting killed everyday