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i don't think any club in us has more girls then guys but the best looking crowd i'd say is between float and vinyl on fridays

subs leave / switch teams / start their own shit all the time, the reason this job works is because there're always more subs out there to recruit and every so often you get one that does good and stays with you thats how the team builds also i don't know why everyone keeps saying this buisness has gone down it hasn't a few years ago you couldn't possibly make a living of promoting unless you ran a club now many people do almost all clubs raised promoters pay over the last couple years by a lot so this buisness definetely is doing better maybe the "image" is worse now but i dont' think its that important

i don't sit back and rely on my promoters i work harder then any one of them but i don't go down the street passing out flyers thats what subs are for the work i do is to build and maintain my teams which takes a lot more time then calling up your friends to go to the club with you which is all subs are for

i wasn't gonna steal promoters until your stupid ass started that other post which cost me 3 promoters 2 of them including vladeyz were worthless but thats besides the point now i'm gonna make up for that by stealing yours

ACTAULLY IT SAYS NOT TO STEAL PROMOTERS FROM THORIN I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HIM AND SHOCKWAVE IS #1 ON MY LIST NOW JUST FOR STARTING THAT OTHER THREAD NICKYMIDNIGHT WOULD BE #2 FOR BEING A FAG BUT NO ONE KNOWS WHO THE HELL HE IS AND HE HAS NO PROMOTERS WORTH STEALING SO I'M NOT GONNA BOTHER WITH HIM

http://bbs.clubplanet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83448 ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID JUST BLOCK MY EMAIL ADD IF YOU DON'T WANNA GET MY EMAILS OR SAY REMOVE ME ITS NOT DIFFICULT

retard how would you know how many promoters i have or what my #s are u don't even know me now i'm sure you make a lot working at abyss at 2/head :laugh: well for you it probably is but until you can break 100 at a decent city club keep quiet and continue to work under other people so they can make money of you

LOU I'M NOT EVEN GONNA BOTHER COMING UP WITH A COMEBACK FOR THAT ONE

i never said abyss rips promoters off they don't but the 2 or 3/head isn't worth it and even if they payed a little more compared to what ny pays its not worth the time I DON'T DO THIS JOB TO MAKE MYSELF LOOK GOOD OR TO BECOME A "respectable industry member" I DO IT TO MAKE MONEY and lou i know for a fact you got promoters that do both abyss and bunka cause 1 of them does bunka with me 2 others with my friend

ok i'm going to try to end this abyss drama here i promoted abyss teen nights with another list because i didn't feel like putting in serious time into it since they pay shit compared to ny hunka bunka offered me a much better deal last teen night but i heard their #s weren't str8 so before completely leaving abyss to go there i wanted to make sure after last teen night i realized their #s are good so i moved my whole team to hunka bunka so i no longer do abyss now and none of the other clubs are competing they're all on either different nights or have a different age limit *by the way lou several of your promoters do hunka bunka and abyss teen nights you just don't know it

i dont' run my own list at abyss and never have so there's nothing wrong with doing it + i just started bunka last teen night and i didn't leave abyss right away because i wanted to make sure bunkas #s were str8 and once i found out they were i moved my team over to abyss any more stupid questions vladeyz u're talking to yourself u should just buy a tape recorder and stop wasting space on this board

well buddy thats the whole point of having a good team why would i need to pass out flyers and shit when i can just hire people to do it for me and i do hunka bunka when they have a teen night not krome i only do krome on saturdays

i never sent an email saying i'd pay 5 in abyss i said up to 5/head in nj clubs meaning some clubs pay less and when they responded to the email i explained that and for bunka i get 5/head 6 if i break 50 but i offer my promoters up to 5 head meaning like 2-5/head depending on their #s you don't know how many promoters i have and i do 4 clubs weekly that splits your # and broken 100 means over 100 its easy to say you do more on a message board when i have no idea who you are

and if you're doing less then 10 don't be saying i don't do real #s i've broken 100 before

dude u don't even break 10 if you can't do that u're not a promoter but congratulations on breaking your 0 mark

1) i don't run a list at abyss never have and i never promised to pay 5/head at abyss i did at hunka bunka oh and actually you have no idea what you're doing just because u're stupid enough to work for someone like shockwave you don't even realize you're working your ass off so he sits back and makes probably 2x as much as you do of your own #s vladeyz i didn't comp u cause u didn't do shit and no you didn't produce at abyss if u did it was like 7 or 8 heads thats not #s and u're in no position to tell me i don't do good i make 10x more then you do or ever will so until you make more then 50$ a week which you probably won't don't talk shit about promoters that do better then u

again any pay rate i promise i deliver if the promoter gets good enough #s i can promise 1000$ for 100 heads in the city i know probably no ones gonna get that but if they do they'll get it and vladeyz if u haven't noticed no one that spoke in this topic except matty c, shockwave and your none producing ass knows who i am GIVING VLADEYZ A CHANCE = 1) WASTED COMPS 2) WASTED STAMPS, ENVELOPES AND FLYERS 3) SHITLOAD OF WASTED TIME ANSWERING RETARTED QUESTIONS HE SHOULD KNOW THE ANSWERS TO BY READING EMAILS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE RESULT = 0 PROFIT AND RETURNS

ACTUALLY IF YOU COULD READ RIGHT U'D UNDERSTAND I WAS TALKING ABOUT YOU NOT HER BUT WHATEVER I DO 1 21+ PARTY AND I CAN GET IN THERE IF I FEEL LIKE IT I JUST HAPPENED TO PREFER A YOUNGER CROWD I UNDERSTAND YOU WERE ALWAYS 60 SO YOU CAN'T RELATE AND ALL MY CITY CLUBS ARE 18+ AND SO ARE ALL MY PROMOTERS UP THERE I JUST DO TEEN NIGHTS IN NJ AND FOR THE RECORD :hat:TEEN NIGHTS KICK ASS:hat: NOW TO VLADEYZ YOU JUST NEED TO LEAVE THIS BOARD AND THIS BUISNESS YOU NEVER DID SHIT WITH JAMES SO STOP BS AND DON'T TELL ME YOU PRODUCED ANYTHING WITH ME CAUSE LIKE I SAID BEFORE I SHOWED YOU THE LISTS EACH TIME AND I BELIEVE YOU NEVER BROKE YOUR PERSONAL RECORD OF 2 SO I SUGGEST WORKING WITH SHOCKWAVE WITH RETURNS LIKE THAT YOU KNOW YOU'LL MAKE A SHITLOAD WITH HIM CAUSE LETS FACE IT LOU IS A "GOOD ASS PROMOTER" :laugh:

HOW THE HELL WOULD YOU KNOW THAT I'VE NEVER EVEN TALKED TO YOU AND YOU'VE NEVER TALKED TO ANY OF MY PROMOTERS AND LIKE I SAID IN THE POST ABOVE I CAN'T RIP THEM OF IN NY IF I COULD I WOULDN'T BUT THEY PICK UP THEIR MONEY FROM THE CLUBS OFFICE NOT FROM ME THE CLUB PAYS ME COMISSION SEPARATELY IF THEY DO HIGH ENOUGH #S I JUST GIVE THEM MORE BUT THEY GET PAID FOR AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY BRING IN CASE U DIDN'T KNOW THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING A TEAM SMART ASS YOU HIRE PROMOTER, THEY PRODUCE AND YOU COLLECT COMISSION AND YES I DO #S MYSELF TOO

I SEE WHATS GOING ON HERE OLD LOU IS TRYING TO GET SOME PLAY :D KEEP WORKING ON THAT BUDDY I'M SURE YOU'LL FIND SOME BLIND CHICK SOONER OR LATER YOU SAID I WASN'T PAYING MY PROMOTERS WHEN YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT THE HELL I PAY THEM AND BY THE WAY IN NY THE CLUB PAYS THEM NOT ME I JUST COLLECT COMISSION OF MY TEAM I HAVE NO WAY OF RIPPING THEM OF EVEN IF I WANTED TO WHICH I DON'T IN NJ I DO PAY THEM WHEN THEY PRODUCE

INTERESTING COMMENT SO LOU WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WHOLE ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE YOUR PROMOTERS WITH FLYERS TO SUCCESFULLY PROMOTE THE EVENT PHILOSOPHY DID I JUST HEAR THE MAGIC WORDS (LOU ARE YOU RIPPING OF YOUR PROMOTERS NOT A GOOD WAY TO RUN THE BUISNESS IT REALLY KILLS THE SCENE YOU KNOW)

SHOCKWAVE - 1) "Dickhead huh? Good businessman i must say....What a juvenile....I have not once called you a name to defame you... " OK INSTEAD OF CALLING ME NAMES YOU MADE UP A SHITLOAD OF LIES ABOUT MY COMPANY THAT MAKES IT A LOT BETTER 2) I PROVIDE MY PROMOTERS WITH FLYERS AND WHATEVER ELSE THEY NEED AS LONG AS THEY PRODUCE PEOPLE LIKE VLADEYZ WHO NEVER DID OVER 2 HEADS I DON'T THINK ARE WORTH THE POSTAGE COST 3) I PAY MY PROMOTERS EXACTLY WHAT I PROMISE TO PAY THEM IF I SAY THEY GET 500$ FOR 50 HEADS THATS 10/HEAD FIRST OF ALL WHICH SOME CLUBS DO PAY AND IF A PROMOTER DOES #S LIKE THAT WHICH MOST PEOPLE DON'T I HAVE NO PROBLEM PAYING THAT BECAUSE I MAKE $ IN RETURN themcmattyc - I'LL TRY THIS 1 LAST TIME I NEVER TRIED STEALING YOUR PROMOTERS IF I EVER DID IT WASN'T BECAUSE I WAS GOING AFTER YOUR PEOPLE AND I NEVER SAID ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOUR COMPANY UNLIKE THE BS YOU GAVE MY PEOPLE ABOUT NY CLUBS NOT PAYING UP vladeyz - YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU DO ABSOLUTELY NO #S PERIOD DON'T BLAME IT ON ME FOR NOT GIVING U FLYERS YOU DIDN'T PRODUCE WITH ME U DIDN'T PRODUCE WITH PULSE WHEN HE DID GIVE YOU FLYERS ALL U DID WAS COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT GETTING COMPED FOR DOING 7 HEADS U'RE WRONG FOR THIS BUISNESS

because its your job if you can't take a 30 min trip to get flyers or just get them when u're at the club i dont' think you're gonna take hours to pass them out

its not my job to send you flyers if you're gonna take the time to pass the flyers out i'm sure you can take 15 min out of your busy life to drive to the club and pick them up but i actually would send them to you if you at least done some #s which again you never did and you shouldn't even be promoting if you only do 7 heads if i did that i wouldn't bother asking for a comp i just wouldn't do the job so to end this convo you can go work with dick head shockwave or any other promoter out there you're gonna make what you made with me (nothing) until you produce