to sigmagal, that was kind of a brutal night, but i have to interject on one thing, your telling me you don't see those 40+ guys in joeys or south city, there is only about 10 of those guys in there anyway. i was actually there, and the music was definitely good, the basis of the party is not 40 year old men, there is definitely a good looking crowd there. the funny thing is i started laughing when i saw that fat lady with her 10 year old daughter( i guessed 12), but anyhow, the only problem i had, and i go there every week before joeys, was that it was a definite sausage party this past week and it is always filled w/ hot girls. and when do you not wait 10 minutes for a drink anywhere else ( i highly doubt you waited 20 minutes) im a guy and i don't even wait that long before i can get a drink. but sorry you had a bad time, i guess i won't be running into you there any time soon. don't be so critical, mediterraneo is definitely a good time. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'D RATHER BE HATED FOR WHO I AM, THAN LIKED FOR WHO I'M NOT.........