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  4. Darude "rush" Is Released Today!!!

    in Washington DC

    Posted

    Originally posted by vicman

    you do make a very important point there. as in most things in today's society, businesses are driven by the bottom line, which is increased revenue. with out it, you can't grow, you can't expand, you can't be more ambitious with your overall goals.

    thanks ! so im not public enermy #1 today!!!! (lol)

  7. Darude "rush" Is Released Today!!!

    in Washington DC

    Posted

    Originally posted by CHRles

    This is a great post. I think byassninc feels she can be candid with you guys, b/c she realizes you're not the type of crowd that is about hype. She's giving you the labels point of view, without sugarcoating her words, and you guys are being direct as well, from a consumers point of view.

    two sides of the same coin, i also buy ALOT of music - i would not download due to the fact that i am partners in a music label, being a DJ i have alot of various sounds and styles and i buy it all (mostly on vinyl) for personal reasons.

    I dont believe in sugarcoating anything in life, we need to make money as a label inorder to be able to sign new material - and develop new projects. If we ONLY cared about the sales - then what is the point we dont - we care about it all - one feeds the other........ !

  8. Darude "rush" Is Released Today!!!

    in Washington DC

    Posted

    instead of having to go to Tower Records and paying $15 for Darude's new CD, why can't i just log on to your web site and buy it directly from you for $10?

    You can do this - you can log on my site and buy it from my merch store - http://www.hellagoodgear.com

    BUT we also like to have all bases loaded you know - we want to make sure we have maxium exposure on ALL our albums - so we try and hit everything - be in stores, online, media whatever and where ever - we try to do as much as possible in the budget we have available for that album.

    Diane

    (blue chip)

  9. Darude "rush" Is Released Today!!!

    in Washington DC

    Posted

    Originally posted by revaluation

    argh! but that is exactly the problem. and that's why most of us who take our music seriously get kinda vicious about it. you guys don't really care about the art, the artist, or his creation.....it's a bottom line, a profit margin.

    In the late 90's, if you made any money off your DJing or production, then you started your own label. And that's where we're at now....artists said, 'the label doesn't care about my art, so I'll start my own thing'. Counterintuitive as it may seem, this saturation actually helped the market for dance music, while the monopolies of the mainstream killed the pop market. Everything on the radio is cookie-cutter, no big deal, been-there-done-that. And now the kids don't have to pay for it anymore so the big labels are going nuts.

    True, the dance market has taken a hit from dling music, but we all still buy vinyl...and the labels who continue to make a quality, upfront, affordable, cutting edge product -- Bedrock, Yoshitoshi, Release -- are still making money.

    And now dance music is more popular than ever -- and no, we don't consider Darude in the same category --, so popular in fact that pop stars are now flocking to dance producers to make their tracks.

    That being said, I appreciate your remarks and your candidness, even if I find it discomforting.

    You have me all wrong - first im being 100% honest when i say i care about sales - i do - this is a business we have to put ALOT of money into something to make it work - so the sales are very very important - BUT you also have to understand IF i did not think a project would work then i would not even waste my time TRYING not in todays market - so that being said - Darude (or whoever) is something i do believe in - as a producer i think he is very talented for the style he plays - its not something that blows me away - BUT i do feel its very very good. As a label we also believe in giving the artist all artistic rights - be in sound / artwork / direction etc etc. All we are doing day in day out is artist delevelopment - Music is my #1 love in life - i personally DJ (not Darude's sound) but Tech house - i have always had music in my life - so being involved in a label now - i understand what i love ./ like and believe in and i also understand what sells and works (for whatever reason it still works) and we have a mixture of the two. BUT we never lose sight of the goal - and the goal is to sell music / make music / the more you sell - the more you can make!!!!!

    D

  10. Darude "rush" Is Released Today!!!

    in Washington DC

    Posted

    Originally posted by vixenfoxxy

    Actually, I think what PGiddy was getting at was that Darude is known for some poptrance crap that was popular among a bunch of fist-pumping guidos at Exit. No offense, I am not saying that to be rude or nasty or anything but that is the general conception at least amongst the people I know... hence why the whole post was dripping with sarcasm from the start...

    Thats ok you can say whatever you feel - it might not be your taste or style - but you cant knock something that works. being his label all we care about is sales - we feel his sound works and sells - so lets see!

  11. Darude "rush" Is Released Today!!!

    in Washington DC

    Posted

    Originally posted by kken

    how come cd prices haven't changed in almost 20 years since the cd format's inception?

    i have no idea - if you buy a CD within the first two weeks of release its usually slightly cheaper - as a sale price is given around $13.99 (ish) but for the most part a cd is around $16.00 give or take - its to do with the over all cost to get that Cd into the store.

  12. Darude "rush" Is Released Today!!!

    in Washington DC

    Posted

    Originally posted by revaluation

    seriously though byassninc, since we have you on the line:

    I'm a producer and I have a guy that I routinely send tracks to, and he sends them out to labels. I figure, hey, if one of them likes my tracks then they will sign it, I'll sign the track away and only hope that I make enough money off of it to pay for some better equipment to make my next track. I figure, if I really have a talent then I'll make a living off this someday.

    And I understand that the market will only pay so much for CDs, say $16.00. But you guys have so many people in between the artist and the prurchaser that it creates this problem: if all the promoters, and labels, and A&R, and tech guys, and manufacturers, and distributors, and agents, and radio people, etc. etc. etc. ALL have to get a piece of the $16.00, then everyone becomes hyper-sesitive to every single cent that is supposedly "stolen" by someone downloading it.

    And if that many people are needed to make an artist sell, then maybe that artist is not really that talented.

    You thoughts?

    well if we cut out the "middle men" then the business would fall quicker than it is right now. The money lost to DL is alot higher than people think.

    We spend our money first on advance to get the album - which goes direct to the talent - then you have to pay to get the album mastered and manufactored - then its shipped to our distrubtion company - who then sells to the retail stores. What we pay for a CD is one price - we then get a set amount per unit from the distrubution company - who then sells to the store - who marks it up to there price.

    You also have to understand that we have to pay a retail program to get the album in the stores - they dont just take them you have to PAY to get them there. And it all mounts up, when you take the whole process into account.

    To do it on your level is fine - BUT wouldnt you like to have your production sold on a National level - and this is what costs the big bucks. Is downloading killing the industry no - but it does make our work somewhat harder - can we stop it no - maybe over time it can be decressed somewhat. Apple have started a great new way to collect some of the money lost to downloads with there 99c single sales. will this catch on? who knows - right now its a waiting game - we have to see what is going to happen.

    Music is my life and being involved on a business level has made me more aware of what actually goes into producing and releasing singles / albums / its a tough game. even outside the manufactoring costs you then have promotion, advertising, radio programes the list goes on and on!

    so as nice as your theory is - we still need all the players to make this clock keep ticking!

    Diane

  16. Darude "rush" Is Released Today!!!

    in Washington DC

    Posted

    Originally posted by pgiddy

    it will help spread the word about how crappy or great the album is. How much does it really cost you? How much does it cost stores? Why such a high markup on an inferior product?

    You'll be surprised at the over head required to deliver a finished album to the store !

  17. Darude "rush" Is Released Today!!!

    in Washington DC

    Posted

    Originally posted by pgiddy

    you should be happy someone actually downloaded it.......

    i should? why? its taking money from the label - when we have paid to manufactor / produce and get this product into the market place - having some DL for free is not something im celebrating you know what i mean!

    diane (blue chip)

  18. Darude "rush" Is Released Today!!!

    in Washington DC

    Posted

    Originally posted by vicman

    whoa!

    ok, truth be told, i didn't DL last week. i really have no idea what darude is doing nowaday's. aside from "sandstorm" i really have no clue what type of stuff he produces, nor would i think i would like it. i'm more into tribal and techno, so unless darude started producing tribal and techno stuff in the last 3-4 years, i dont think i would buy it.

    lol... so dont tell me you DL if you didnt - thats confessing to the problem!

    if you like more tribal / techno - you should check out LOUIS OSBORUNE "Motion Audio V1" is a underground album no real HITS as far as commercial tracks - but a great intelligent comp. with a good groove - enjoy - take care - and DONT DL!!!!

    (lol) Diane (blue chip)

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