you people are still fighting over this shit!!! lol man... hey atomicapples you posted the rating for the 3000GT base! hahaha, man even I hate that car... but compare it to a vr4! There is a huge difference between a 3000GT base sohc with 160hp FWD and a 3000GT VR4 dohc with 320 hp AWD. Ah, you are never going to get it...